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re: Treasury secretary says ‘we will see’ about $2,000 rebate checks
Posted on 11/17/25 at 5:25 pm to ragincajun03
Posted on 11/17/25 at 5:25 pm to ragincajun03
Insanity. Pay down the fvcking debt!
Posted on 11/17/25 at 5:49 pm to YouKnowImRight
quote:Populists grow government for their voters. Liberals grow government for their voters. The sales pitch is the only thing that changes. Liberal messaging is “rich people screwed you (and they're racist)." Populist messaging is “elite people screwed you (and they eat babies).”
Populism is just liberalism with a fresh coat of paint.
Results are the same because neither movement cares what the books look like as long as it plays well to their base and keeps the skim going.
Populism and liberalism both do the same thing. One just slaps a flag sticker on their bumper and the other puts a coexist sticker on theirs.
Posted on 11/17/25 at 5:52 pm to DownshiftAndFloorIt
[quote]Im sure there will be a requirement to be able to vote in the next election, right?
fiddy
hot take: if this keeps the dems from winning the mids then it might acutally be worth it.
fiddy
hot take: if this keeps the dems from winning the mids then it might acutally be worth it.
Posted on 11/17/25 at 5:54 pm to ragincajun03
Same baw just said that the price of beef is high because under Biden illegals came across the border with diseased cattle.
Posted on 11/17/25 at 6:12 pm to ragincajun03
Keep it and just tax me less
Posted on 11/17/25 at 6:22 pm to ragincajun03
frick I hope they don't give these checks to anyone, no more inflationary shite. Put it towards the deficit
Posted on 11/17/25 at 6:23 pm to ragincajun03
Id much rather this money go to pay down the debt.
Posted on 11/17/25 at 6:31 pm to YouKnowImRight
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So anybody currently receiving the majority of benefit from government services but proportionally contributing less will benefit.
But what if they earned less money than you, but bought more junk?
Posted on 11/17/25 at 6:31 pm to DesScorp
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Id much rather this money go to pay down the debt.
You won't be alive for that. Fck them kids.
Posted on 11/17/25 at 8:28 pm to ragincajun03
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The payments would be “for working families” and would have an income limit
People that pay zero income taxes shouldn’t get shite. I don’t like the income limit but it I understand.
Posted on 11/17/25 at 8:32 pm to ragincajun03
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Wonder what the income limit will be.
$100k single file
$150k joint file
My take-they can keep their damn stimulus, just give me a $2000 credit on my tax return.
Posted on 11/17/25 at 11:11 pm to ragincajun03
Stop this BS, plow into the debt.
Posted on 11/18/25 at 12:07 am to lsufan1971
quote:The problem is we don’t distinguish between sustained labor-force participation and nonparticipation within the same income brackets.
People that pay zero income taxes shouldn’t get shite. I don’t like the income limit but it I understand.
Where people land on the question of whether it’s better to help the deserving even if some undeserving folks benefit, or to restrict benefits even if that hurts the deserving, ends up sucking up all the oxygen and collapses into a left/right fight when there’s a third option: a targeted, means-tested stimulus that’s tied to verified work history. That might function more like a tiny GI Bill than another batch of undifferentiated COVID payouts. But politically, that level of precision is off the table.
At the end of the day, this is an electoral calculation. The only real question is whether you think the political payoff is worth the cost.
Posted on 11/18/25 at 5:11 am to ragincajun03
I don't particularly care about getting it. I also don't want anyone to get it. Just pay the debt. But in modern America, you have to play to the common base.
Maybe it was better when voting was restricted to the moderately competent and socially involved, when it was just landowners 21 and up. Those who have an idea of how things work, not just "I don't know but I like [insane idea]," in other words the worst version of populism.
Maybe it was better when voting was restricted to the moderately competent and socially involved, when it was just landowners 21 and up. Those who have an idea of how things work, not just "I don't know but I like [insane idea]," in other words the worst version of populism.
Posted on 11/18/25 at 6:28 am to BabyTac
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So above a certain limit, are we not considered a ‘working family’???
It says "Working families". Not Hard Working Families. Stop overachieving
Posted on 11/18/25 at 7:13 am to ragincajun03
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The payments would be “for working families” and would have an income limit, Bessent said Sunday.
Buying poor people votes.
Most in this thread will not see a damn thing. But you'll be feeling the inflationary pressure when everyone spends every single dime all at once.
Posted on 11/18/25 at 7:39 am to lsufan1971
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People that pay zero income taxes shouldn’t get shite. I don’t like the income limit but it I understand.
But income does not directly determine consumption. Tariff revenue is created indirectly from a tax on goods paid for by consumers. What if someone with less spending power than you actually spends more than you? How are they less deserving of recouping loss?
Posted on 11/18/25 at 7:44 am to ragincajun03
Drive prices up through tariffs and taxation, then toss coins to the masses. Where have I seen this playbook before? Trump is showing his populist Democrat roots.
Posted on 11/18/25 at 7:46 am to ragincajun03
Hooray, those that do get fricked again.
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