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re: Travis Pastrana trying 3 Evil Knievel jumps tonight

Posted on 7/9/18 at 6:28 am to
Posted by LanierSpots
Sarasota, Florida
Member since Sep 2010
69616 posts
Posted on 7/9/18 at 6:28 am to
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Who's this old coot with the pink hair?


Carey Hart's wife




You know Carey Hart is married to Pink right?




Carey Hart was the first guy to bust out the backflip in competition many years ago. He was pretty good.


Travis is bad arse and always has been but this was more of a publicity stunt than anything. There was never a chance he was not going to make all these jumps. He knew that. It was more of a chance to pay tribute to EK


Seth Enslow was better at distance jumping, at times, without all the publicity. Dude was a mad man


LINK


Ryan Capes did the record with no crowd. 100 feet more than a football field.


Capes
This post was edited on 7/9/18 at 6:35 am
Posted by TigerNlc
Chocolate City
Member since Jun 2006
33098 posts
Posted on 7/9/18 at 8:02 am to
He will never be as good as Super Dave Osborne.
Posted by Geauxboy
NW Arkansas
Member since Oct 2006
4856 posts
Posted on 7/9/18 at 9:25 am to
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Top 5 athlete of all time?


Athlete? Seriously?
Posted by FreddieMac
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2010
24838 posts
Posted on 7/9/18 at 9:33 am to
Just saw the jump. That is a modern bike made to look like something Evil used. There will never be another Evil, no one will ever try to jump those hunks of iron like he did. That look like the normal X-games jump.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Member since Jun 2009
88713 posts
Posted on 7/9/18 at 9:39 am to
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Top 5 athlete of all time?


Athlete? Seriously?



Not that I think he's top 5 all time, but flinging a motorcycle around precisely is extremely taxing on the body. If you don't think a shite load of physical training goes into what he has done his whole career, not really sure what to tell you.
This post was edited on 7/9/18 at 1:44 pm
Posted by ninthward
Boston, MA
Member since May 2007
21989 posts
Posted on 7/9/18 at 10:49 am to
I get it but neither of those two were on a vtwin.
Posted by BoostAddict
Member since Jun 2007
3153 posts
Posted on 7/9/18 at 11:05 am to
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Athlete? Seriously


Motocross itself (not necessarily freestyle) is the most all around physically demanding/toughest sport there is.
Posted by double d
Amarillo by morning
Member since Jun 2004
17057 posts
Posted on 7/9/18 at 11:36 am to
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anyone familiar with Travis or MX/freestyle in general knows he could have done this blindfolded. But I can’t think of many things on tv on a Sunday night better than this. Though I do love me some Wicked Tuna...


Tyler took the lead last night on WT. Southern boys ain’t happy.
Posted by hawkster
Member since Aug 2010
6286 posts
Posted on 7/9/18 at 12:08 pm to
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Just saw the jump. That is a modern bike made to look like something Evil used. There will never be another Evil, no one will ever try to jump those hunks of iron like he did. That look like the normal X-games jump.


I'm not knocking what Pastrana did yesterday. That first jump reminded me of old school jumpers like Fat Rat Russell in Baton Rouge. Just haul arse and fly over junk, hoping to land on the other side. It takes guts and amazing skill on a bike to make those jumps look that easy.

But as far as the equipment goes. Jumping on a 750 twin is a far cry from jumping on a motocross type bike. But the 12 inches of travel on a motocrosser works to handle a huge range of motions from small stutter bumps to landings after massive air. That suspension is as much about maintaining traction and contact with the ground as it is about absorbing impact.

Modern engineering can use the 4 inches of travel on Pastrana's Indian to handle the specifically calculated loads from those 3 jumps with nearly as much finesse as a motocrosser. Modern shock and fork design is amazingly complex and tunable. Not true in the 60's and 70's when Evel was at his peak of popularity.

Posted by Supermoto Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2010
10481 posts
Posted on 7/9/18 at 1:05 pm to
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Modern engineering can use the 4 inches of travel on Pastrana's Indian to handle the specifically calculated loads from those 3 jumps with nearly as much finesse as a motocrosser. Modern shock and fork design is amazingly complex and tunable. Not true in the 60's and 70's when Evel was at his peak of popularity.

I really like Travis and the dude is incredible. For me, I felt like his first attempt at a double back flip years ago was his most dangerous stunt (although today it’s nothing).

How the hell did Harley Davidson screw up and not supply Travis one of their bikes is beyond me. Talk about a marketing blunder.
Posted by bayouvette
Raceland
Member since Oct 2005
5589 posts
Posted on 7/9/18 at 1:43 pm to
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For me, I felt like his first attempt at a double back flip years ago was his most dangerous stunt (although today it’s nothing)


i though jumping out the plane with no parachute was a little more sketchy.
Posted by Geauxboy
NW Arkansas
Member since Oct 2006
4856 posts
Posted on 7/9/18 at 5:46 pm to
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Not that I think he's top 5 all time, but flinging a motorcycle around precisely is extremely taxing on the body. If you don't think a shite load of physical training goes into what he has done his whole career, not really sure what to tell you.


I'll never understand how this means he is an "athlete". The motorcycle is doing the work. And I don't this race car drivers, jockeys and the like are athletes, either. Talented, skilled yes. Athlete, no.
Posted by hawkster
Member since Aug 2010
6286 posts
Posted on 7/9/18 at 5:54 pm to
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The motorcycle is doing the work.


I can tell you've never ridden an enduro or a motocross race.
Posted by LanierSpots
Sarasota, Florida
Member since Sep 2010
69616 posts
Posted on 7/9/18 at 6:02 pm to
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I'll never understand how this means he is an "athlete". The motorcycle is doing the work. And I don't this race car drivers, jockeys and the like are athletes, either. Talented, skilled yes. Athlete, no.



How does it feel to be so fricking clueless?


Pro Motocross racers do two 30 min motos in each event. For the full 30 mins their heart rates are maxed. And saying the bikes do all the work is just ignorant.

I think at times we confuse the meaning of
"athlete" and "conditioning". These guys are some of the most conditioned athletes in the world, hands down


Posted by Robin Masters
Birmingham
Member since Jul 2010
34898 posts
Posted on 7/9/18 at 6:06 pm to
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Motocross itself (not necessarily freestyle) is the most all around physically demanding/toughest sport there is.



Vastly underrated sport as it relates to physical fitness of the participants. Next to soccer players they are the most physically fit. Most People have no idea how tough it is.
This post was edited on 7/9/18 at 6:07 pm
Posted by Robin Masters
Birmingham
Member since Jul 2010
34898 posts
Posted on 7/9/18 at 6:08 pm to
quote:

I'll never understand how this means he is an "athlete". The motorcycle is doing the work. And I don't this race car drivers, jockeys and the like are athletes, either. Talented, skilled yes. Athlete, no.



No offense but on this subject you have no idea what you are talking about. You actually couldn’t be more wrong than if you just babbled sounds incoherently.
Posted by TigrrrDad
Member since Oct 2016
7940 posts
Posted on 7/9/18 at 6:09 pm to
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I'll never understand how this means he is an "athlete". The motorcycle is doing the work




Throw a leg over a dirtbike and try a couple laps on the track then get back to me. I raced for 6 years, and I wasn’t in bad shape. I’d do 5-10 miles on my mountain bike a few times a week for training. And at no point in those 6 years could I do more than 3 laps at anything close to my maximum speed. It is easily the most physically demanding sport I’ve ever done, and that’s not counting the physical toll the inevitable crashes have on your body. The bike does very little of the work.

There is a HUGE difference between riding a motorcycle down the street or down a trail and racing motocross, and Travis was one of the best at the highest level in his prime before he started focusing on freestyle.
This post was edited on 7/9/18 at 6:10 pm
Posted by Rossberg02
Member since Jun 2016
2591 posts
Posted on 7/9/18 at 6:14 pm to
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Athlete? Seriously?



Yea, I’m definitely serious. I’m sure most athletes need the spatial awareness, dexterity, balance, strength and cognitive abilities required to do what he is able to do with a 250lbs dirt bike, a rally car, a stock car...that shite isn’t being done by any regular unathletic person. Just because a ball isn’t involved doesn’t mean it’s not athletics.

The definition of athlete is something along the lines of someone who has the skills to perform games that require strength, agility, and fitness.
Posted by OweO
Plaquemine, La
Member since Sep 2009
120110 posts
Posted on 7/9/18 at 6:20 pm to
I remember watching that Jake Brown fall.. I honestly thought dude was dead at first.
Posted by OweO
Plaquemine, La
Member since Sep 2009
120110 posts
Posted on 7/9/18 at 6:24 pm to
quote:

The motorcycle is doing the work.


What? That's like saying a gun shot the ducks by itself.
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