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re: Travel Ball Mecca
Posted on 7/6/23 at 8:35 am to GruntbyAssociation
Posted on 7/6/23 at 8:35 am to GruntbyAssociation
If there's one thing the OT is fricking clueless about, it's youth baseball. And high school baseball for that matter. But watching all these people who think they know what they're talking about swing and miss is quality entertainment. Never change OT.
This post was edited on 7/6/23 at 8:36 am
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Posted on 7/6/23 at 8:37 am to TheBaker
quote:let me guess tiny private or rural school?
Both of my kids played HS ball and I never spent a dime on this travel ball bs. HS was 6 and 8 yrs ago for them
Posted on 7/6/23 at 8:38 am to TheBaker
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Bottom like is HS has tryouts. If your kid kills it then he’ll likely be chosen. I’ve seen it go both ways. Your kid doesn’t need to be a freaking travel ball guru since age 7 to make a HS team. That’s a fact. Ascension parish schools are blatantly different. Being a legacy or political figure’s son/grandson/nephew is an absolute must.
haha the ascension schools are competitive AF, and if you play rec your whole life, your kid isnt killing a tryout compared to the others.
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Some of you are making it sound like playing HS ball is some impossible pipe dream. Both of my kids played HS ball and I never spent a dime on this travel ball bs. HS was 6 and 8 yrs ago for them. Can’t see how it could’ve changed that much. If you’re big into travel ball. Good for you. But it is 100% NOT a pre-requisite to play HS sports.
it has nothing to do with travel or not travel
its the amount of practices, games, skill development, coaching and the extreme competition the good teams and players see.
I was not sayign the HS coach gives two fricks if you played travel or didnt because he doesnt, he wants the best players period.
but take a school like st amant, that has ~2100 kids, ~600 freshman coming in. They keep about 10...do you think your kid that has played rec their whole life is going to be in that 10? he has 30% at most of the game time and practice time the others have, if that. he isnt going to be used to the speed of the game or pitches, not going to be used to swinging bbcor.
zachary has ~400 incoming, dutchtown has almost 700 freehman, EA has 500, DS ~600...etc etc
live oak and central have close to 400 but they also seem to get a bunch of really really good players. Uhigh, catholic, parkview are recruiting and taking almost only absolute studs.
thats just the BR area. could do the same for lafayette, lake charles, the nola catholic league etc etc
when the 5a schools are taking 10 kids per class.....yea good luck to little 120lbs rec ball johnny with his 68 mph heater trying out for the HS team. He is going to need all the luck he can get.
as far as travel goes, i have mentioned before, its not all the same. if you are 12+ and playing AA ball, stop wasting your parents money, its nothing but glorified rec or if your parents are ok spending the money....adjust your expectations.
now if you are trying out for some little school in a little town middle of no where....then sure. or if its a high school that is traditionally crappy in baseball...sure you can make it playing rec.
but if you think you are going to make John Curtis, Brother Martin, Jesuit, Rummell cause you played the playgrounds your whole life....
Posted on 7/6/23 at 8:41 am to GreatLakesTiger24
How hard did lsu777 go in this thread
Posted on 7/6/23 at 8:53 am to Sun God
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How hard did lsu777 go in this thread
I think he's got a scanner with an alert on his phone/computer that notifies him anytime travel ball is mentioned on here
Posted on 7/6/23 at 8:55 am to 777Tiger
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I think he's got a scanner with an alert on his phone/computer that notifies him anytime travel ball is mentioned on here
ever notice i only post during the day? work is slow AF right now as its budget season. now in about another weak...prolly wont see me posting at all for a while.
Posted on 7/6/23 at 9:10 am to LSUFanHouston
Man complains about travel ball while he is at travel ball
Posted on 7/6/23 at 9:19 am to tiger2180
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What you have described is not the typical college athlete at a D1 championship university. Look at the top schools UGA, Alabama, USC…..a lot of the best athletes are getting in trouble. Stetson Bennett attended UGA for six years and still does not have a degree. ..other story lines are available at UGA,Bama, LSU, A&M, OU…
It absolutely is the typical college athlete. Most people on this board think of mostly football. Take away football and basketball and there are TONS of kids left in athletics. Those are the kids I'm talking about. Baseball, soccer, swimming and diving, volleyball, gymnastics, etc. These numbers aren't exact, but from what I can find, there are around 500,000 D1 NCAA athletes, men and women. There are about 75,000 football players and about 45,000 men and women basketball players. It's a tiny % of the athletes that get in trouble. The great majority are there to earn degree, not to go pro in some sport. Maybe you should watch those ads the NCAA has during games about what most of the athletes end up doing. NCAA isn't just about football like so many on this board think. It's whole purpose is to give young men and women an opportunity to continue to compete while learning what they will really go pro in.
This post was edited on 7/6/23 at 9:36 am
Posted on 7/6/23 at 9:36 am to LSUFanHouston
Travel/showcase ball culture is out of control. However, if your kid wants to play high school baseball or softball, they likely aren’t getting on the field if they didn’t play travel ball. Those kids are way more advanced than the rec ball kids.
High school coaches, for the most part, no longer develop players. They expect them to be a finished product by the time they get to 9th grade.
Sure, there will be a rec ball kid make it on the field here or there, but the majority of the starters will have played travel/showcase ball.
This is true for small private schools too, not just 4 and 5a powerhouses.
High school coaches, for the most part, no longer develop players. They expect them to be a finished product by the time they get to 9th grade.
Sure, there will be a rec ball kid make it on the field here or there, but the majority of the starters will have played travel/showcase ball.
This is true for small private schools too, not just 4 and 5a powerhouses.
This post was edited on 7/6/23 at 9:38 am
Posted on 7/6/23 at 9:42 am to RoscoJelleauxShot
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my son went from riding the bench last year in Rec ball (with an idiot coach) to short stop on my team
It's hard finding a coach who's son wasn't good enough to be his short stop.
Posted on 7/6/23 at 9:43 am to LSUballs
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But watching all these people who think they know what they're talking about swing and miss is quality entertainment.
Again, I’m only here to make fun of the parents. They take the game WAY too seriously, get half drunk AT the games, rip heaters in the parking lot, and all wear the same “travel ball” attire (flat bills, tats, Karen haircuts, etc)
This post was edited on 7/6/23 at 9:44 am
Posted on 7/6/23 at 9:44 am to Chad504boy
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It's hard finding a coach who's son wasn't good enough to be his short stop.
yep, what a coincidence that most teams have as many coaches as there are starters
Posted on 7/6/23 at 9:49 am to Tyga Woods
There’s a difference in Most HS players played on a travel ball team and you have to play serious travel ball to make the team.
The fact is there are some good travel ball teams but, as stated in this thread, there’s plenty of parent coached shite shows that in no way improve your chances of making it past jr high.
The fact is there are some good travel ball teams but, as stated in this thread, there’s plenty of parent coached shite shows that in no way improve your chances of making it past jr high.
Posted on 7/6/23 at 9:53 am to Tyga Woods
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High school coaches, for the most part, no longer develop players. They expect them to be a finished product by the time they get to 9th grade.
Not disagreeing with you, just curious on what you mean by this. Are you taking developing as in: ground ball fundamentals (R, L into ball), how to get a proper secondary lead, Cuts/relays in all situations/ backside hitting and moving runners, etc. or are you talking launch angle, heavy ball velo hunting, etc.
I could see how a parent could get the 2 confused.
This post was edited on 7/6/23 at 9:55 am
Posted on 7/6/23 at 10:11 am to lsu777
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lsu777
Okay, I give up. This guy is just a clown
Lsu777, if everything is “AF” than nothing is “AF”
And remind me, which travel ball team did Barry bonds okay for?
Posted on 7/6/23 at 10:16 am to LSUFanHouston
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less to do with player development and more to do with separating parents from their money.
While your point is valid, the bigger point is moving from school / town / region pride and fans to players just being enamored with national and international marketing by pimps, fat little girlfriends, helicopter relatives, groupies, street agents, professional agents, lawyers, bankers, and assorted leaches currently feeding off middle school and high school kids who are not as bright or as good as they think they are.
Posted on 7/6/23 at 10:19 am to lsu777
Two things can be true at the same time:
Travel ball is necessary to make it to decent high school programs
Almost none of these kids will play major D1 baseball or make money off of baseball
Travel ball is necessary to make it to decent high school programs
Almost none of these kids will play major D1 baseball or make money off of baseball
Posted on 7/6/23 at 10:21 am to NIH
quote:this is where they pretend like very few travel ball parents think their kid is going to play in college
lmost none of these kids will play major D1 baseball or make money off of baseball
Posted on 7/6/23 at 10:23 am to GreatLakesTiger24
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this is where they pretend like very few travel ball parents think their kid is going to play in college
this is true. It’s no different than every gymnastics parent thinking their baby is making the Olympics 
Posted on 7/6/23 at 10:25 am to lsu777
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now if you are trying out for some little school in a little town middle of no where....then sure. or if its a high school that is traditionally crappy in baseball...sure you can make it playing rec.
But yet those divisions get the same four teams at state as 5A does
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