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HoustonGumbeauxGuy
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Transgender teen murdered; genitals mutilated and eyes gouged out - "NOT a hate crime"
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Ally Steinfeld, a transgender teenager, was murdered in Cabool, Missouri, earlier this month. Now, details about her violent death are beginning to emerge. According to Kansas City, Steinfeld, who had come out as transgender earlier this year, had been stabbed to death. Her body was found to have been severely mutilated and burned. “I still don’t know who in their right minds would do something like that,” said Linda Camara, who is close friends with one of Steinfeld’s cousins. “Killing someone is very bad, but I mean to do it ... I just can’t even see someone doing that.” Three have been charged with her murder: Andrew Vrba, Briana Calderas, and Isis Schauer. Vrba admitted to the stabbing; Calderas and Schauer were present and helped burn the body. Vrba says he had attempted to poison her, but when she refused to drink the poison he resorted to stabbing her. A fourth individual, James Grigsby, has been charged with abandonment of a corpse and tampering with physical evidence, both felonies.
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Vrba, who is 18 years old, bragged to police about the crime, adding that he had gouged out Steinfeld's eyes and destroyed her genitals. The Human Rights campaign has noted that several news outlets had misgendered Steinfeld in the reports on her death. She was also referred to as male in court proceedings. Steinfeld had come out as transgender on social media in May and had changed her name on Facebook. Texas County Sheriff James Sigman has criticized media for including the details of her death. “I know the family of the victim was very upset for they did not know the full details of how their loved passed because I did not disclose that information to them for many reasons,” Sigman wrote. “Our investigation is still ongoing and details of the crime like that should not be released to the public... As usual in homicide cases it is hard to make (sense) of the reason or figure out why people do the things that they do.” Many are speculating that the incident was a hate crime, but police are unconvinced: “I would say murder in the first-degree is all that matters,” said prosecutor Parke Stevens Jr, who does not think the killer's motivation related to Steinfeld's gender. “That is a hate crime in itself.” Probable cause statements omit the detail that Steinfeld was transgender.




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Jcorye1
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re: Transgender teen murdered; genitals mutilated and eyes gouged out - "NOT a hate crime"
I hope they die after a long and terrible time in prison. It is unbelievably hard to prove a hate crime and the AD didn't choose to include those charges so it probably did not clear the threshold.
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DeafJam73
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re: Transgender teen murdered; genitals mutilated and eyes gouged out - "NOT a hate crime"
Wow. What a fricked up way to die. Give those POS's the needle.

As for it not being a hate crime, the concept of hate crimes is stupid. One crime is not worse than another because of handpicked differences.


Brosef Stalin
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re: Transgender teen murdered; genitals mutilated and eyes gouged out - "NOT a hate crime"
its only a hate crime if the victim is black


TDcline
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re: Transgender teen murdered; genitals mutilated and eyes gouged out - "NOT a hate crime"
It's much much harder to prosecute if "hate crime" is on the docket.

Best just to get the guaranteed conviction and give someone the death penalty than to try to swing for the fences with hate crime.


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re: Transgender teen murdered; genitals mutilated and eyes gouged out - "NOT a hate crime"
ISIS did this!


Kino74
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re: Transgender teen murdered; genitals mutilated and eyes gouged out - "NOT a hate crime"
I see 4 individuals needing the death penalty.


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ReauxlTide222
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re: Transgender teen murdered; genitals mutilated and eyes gouged out - "NOT a hate crime"
That's an unfortunate last name.

frick them all, though. I hope they suffer.


DeafJam73
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re: Transgender teen murdered; genitals mutilated and eyes gouged out - "NOT a hate crime"
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The Human Rights campaign has noted that several news outlets had misgendered Steinfeld in the reports on her death


Really? That's what the Human Rights campaign is spending time on? Correcting pronouns in newspapers?


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re: Transgender teen murdered; genitals mutilated and eyes gouged out - "NOT a hate crime"
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its only a hate crime if the victim is black


But the perps are white so it does meet the other half of the equation.
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Byrdybyrd05
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re: Transgender teen murdered; genitals mutilated and eyes gouged out - "NOT a hate crime"
That is messed up they should do the same to those 4 and see if they like how that feels.


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HoustonGumbeauxGuy
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re: Transgender teen murdered; genitals mutilated and eyes gouged out - "NOT a hate crime"
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Best just to get the guaranteed conviction and give someone the death penalty than to try to swing for the fences with hate crime.

Truth


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GulfstreamTiger
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re: Transgender teen murdered; genitals mutilated and eyes gouged out - "NOT a hate crime"
Hate crime tag going to change anything. Hate crime in itself just the stupidest of stupid law.


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Langland
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re: Transgender teen murdered; genitals mutilated and eyes gouged out - "NOT a hate crime"
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destroyed her genitals

So they destroyed her dick and balls?


jpbTiger
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re: Transgender teen murdered; genitals mutilated and eyes gouged out - "NOT a hate crime"
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the concept of hate crimes is stupid


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jpbTiger
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re: Transgender teen murdered; genitals mutilated and eyes gouged out - "NOT a hate crime"
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So they destroyed her dick and balls?


Was working on a response along these lines, but you beat me to it. Was torn between pointing out the irony (her penis is gone....) and the obvious tragedy, sad to happen to anyone regardless of their issues.....


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SabiDojo
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re: Transgender teen murdered; genitals mutilated and eyes gouged out - "NOT a hate crime"
Disgusting animals


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Glorious
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re: Transgender teen murdered; genitals mutilated and eyes gouged out - "NOT a hate crime"
We should have a guillotine


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OMLandshark
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re: Transgender teen murdered; genitals mutilated and eyes gouged out - "NOT a hate crime"
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ISIS did this!



Quite literally as it turns out.


jpbTiger
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re: Transgender teen murdered; genitals mutilated and eyes gouged out - "NOT a hate crime"
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Quite literally as it turns out.


All the time- coming soon to a small town near you.


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