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re: Trans man unhappy with maternity care
Posted on 6/3/21 at 9:22 am to CoastLSUFan
Posted on 6/3/21 at 9:22 am to CoastLSUFan
Eggs don't magically turn into sperm. Vice Versa.
I started reading the link. I cannot forget the pictures but I wish I could.
Then I came to this
I don't care about the numbers, but that one small 2914 study even exists from 2014 that bothers me a lot. How long have these genital mutilations been going on in enough numbers to make a small study. Just to get the number of mutilations of people of childbearing age to the point that they can be found after giving birth means a whole lot of chopping has been going on.
And you can condemn me, but each person is a singular entity and should use singular pronouns and matching verbs.
Is the writer Dante considering adding an additional circle of hell?
I started reading the link. I cannot forget the pictures but I wish I could.
Then I came to this
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According to one small 2014 study, 22 percent of transgender and nonbinary people chose home births
I don't care about the numbers, but that one small 2914 study even exists from 2014 that bothers me a lot. How long have these genital mutilations been going on in enough numbers to make a small study. Just to get the number of mutilations of people of childbearing age to the point that they can be found after giving birth means a whole lot of chopping has been going on.
And you can condemn me, but each person is a singular entity and should use singular pronouns and matching verbs.
Is the writer Dante considering adding an additional circle of hell?
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Posted on 6/3/21 at 9:22 am to CoastLSUFan
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I’m really struggling to understand this mindset.
Trans freaks are mentally f*cking ill.
Why would you even try to "understand" someone who is mentally ill. Instead of PRETENDING along with them that they're something they're not, you should just insist that they get professional psychiatric help.
Posted on 6/3/21 at 9:30 am to MMauler
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you should just insist that they get professional psychiatric help.
Who do you think helps these folks get hormones replacement drugs and okays gender re-assignment surgeries? Whether you disagree with the methods or not, this is now the mainstream "treatment" from psychiatric professionals.
Posted on 6/3/21 at 9:34 am to MMauler
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Why would you even try to "understand" someone who is mentally ill. Instead of PRETENDING along with them that they're something they're not, you should just insist that they get professional psychiatric help.
I have no problem with adults choosing to alter themselves. I do, however, have a problem with them expecting others to pay for it or treat them in some special way. I also feel sorry for their kids.
I guess I don’t “get” it because that’s just not how I’m wired. I’m thankful for that.
Posted on 6/3/21 at 9:35 am to CoastLSUFan
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I’m really struggling to understand this mindset.
It seems to me this individual is less "trans" and more "intersexual". I think that's what it's called. They think all genders should be able to do all things. So men and women should both be able to get pregnant.
Posted on 6/3/21 at 9:37 am to CoastLSUFan
quote:Why? I will never understand this.
I can understand why an adult (not a child) might choose to take drastic measures to change genders
Posted on 6/3/21 at 9:43 am to CoastLSUFan
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Trans
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I don’t understand this at all
No one does
Posted on 6/3/21 at 9:58 am to CoastLSUFan
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Trans man
Woman. I believe the term you're looking for is "woman."
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giving birth
Yup. Confirmed: woman.
Posted on 6/3/21 at 10:05 am to tigergirl10
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Why? I will never understand this.
I guess what I mean is this:
I am a natural female and feel like a natural female. If I woke up one day and had a penis, that would distress me. I’d be horrified. I suppose these trans people feel similar to that. It’s purely supposition on my part, though. It’s probably more complicated than that.
This post was edited on 6/3/21 at 10:06 am
Posted on 6/3/21 at 10:09 am to mtntiger
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is doing what she's doing for attention.
/thread
Posted on 6/3/21 at 10:18 am to CoastLSUFan
The 20-somethings are fricked, I'm telling you.
We had a nephew decide he was a she. 6'3", athletic, scholarship, the works... decided he wanted boobies and his new freakazoid college friends encouraged it. He went from full scholarship and President's List to failing. From promising career to wondering WTF he will do to get by.
The scariest part, perhaps? Not ONE of the other nieces and nephews around his age even flinched when told. This is their normal. WTF.
(edited to shorten the parable)
We had a nephew decide he was a she. 6'3", athletic, scholarship, the works... decided he wanted boobies and his new freakazoid college friends encouraged it. He went from full scholarship and President's List to failing. From promising career to wondering WTF he will do to get by.
The scariest part, perhaps? Not ONE of the other nieces and nephews around his age even flinched when told. This is their normal. WTF.
(edited to shorten the parable)
This post was edited on 6/3/21 at 10:31 am
Posted on 6/3/21 at 10:25 am to CoastLSUFan
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Pregnancy literature is geared towards white, heterosexual, cisgender people," said Ray Rachlin, a certified professional midwife and founder of Refuge Midwifery in Philadelphia. "That's who all the images are geared towards and the resources geared towards. From the get-go, they're having to hack a system that wasn't set up for their needs."
For starters, the female-oriented language around pregnancy and childbirth can be hurtful and triggering to someone who doesn’t identify as a woman. Rachlin and others suggest people consider saying perinatal care instead of maternity care, chestfeeding instead of breastfeeding, birthing people instead of mothers, for example.
Unreal. Ready for that asteroid.
Posted on 6/3/21 at 10:32 am to concrete_tiger
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it is a mental health issue, and he needs help.
Like I asked another poster...when giving hormones and transition surgery IS the help and treatment that is being recommended by psychiatrists then what do you expect to happen?
Posted on 6/3/21 at 10:34 am to concrete_tiger
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The scariest part, perhaps? Not ONE of the other nieces and nephews around his age even flinched. This is their normal. WTF.
This is the part that floors me—how this new generation has so normalized it. I truly feel sorry for people who feel like they were born with the wrong body parts, but I damn sure don’t think it is as commonplace as we are seeing now, or do I think it should be encouraged—especially among teenagers whose brains haven’t finished developing.
Posted on 6/3/21 at 11:15 am to DestrehanTiger
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This has always been what confuses me most about the trans movement. For a while before this, there has been a push to remove gender norms in society. Stop making female characters in cartoons pink. Girls can play with trucks. Boys can play with dolls. Women can be marines.
Then, the trans movement got into gear. So, a man can decide he is a woman, not change anything about his body, wear dresses and jewelry, and now he's a woman? Why isn't he just a man that likes wearing dresses and jewelry?
I’ve struggled with this as well. People say traditional gender norms are too restrictive and not rooted in reality. Okay, if you believe that then it would make sense to assert that there’s more than one way to be a real man or woman. But if a person’s ultimate reaction to having deep feelings/preferences that aren’t typically associated with one biological sex is to live as fully as possible as the opposite sex in order to feel consistent or authentic, isn’t that just validating the concept that some traits really are inherently and immutably “male” or “female”?
By the same token, we keep being told that sex and gender are two completely different identities and should be treated as such. Yet some of the most outspoken activists will also conflate the two, like the people who leave their baby’s sex off the birth certificate because they don’t want to “assume its gender”. How is that even possible, if sex and gender are truly separate entities? What’s on your kid’s birth certificate is medical information, a biological fact, and leaving that space blank doesn’t alter that reality in the slightest. If you want to act like it doesn’t exist because you think that’s the only way your child would have the ability to express its true identity, that sounds to me like you actually believe that sex and gender ARE inextricably intertwined.
Posted on 6/3/21 at 11:18 am to CoastLSUFan
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It contains photos of a pregnant man.
No, it doesn't.
Posted on 6/3/21 at 11:21 am to LegendInMyMind
Remnants of trump's America.
Posted on 6/3/21 at 11:21 am to CoastLSUFan
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I’m really struggling to understand this mindset.
It's not hard. It's mental illness mixed with wish fulfillment, victim mentality, and a culture which focuses on unending pleasure. As long as "pleasure" doesn't harm someone we allow it, so you see these kinds of situations when someone, via mental illness, has no idea how to find pleasure in their own realities so they chase other ones.
Posted on 6/3/21 at 11:24 am to DeepBlueSea
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I’ve struggled with this as well
Everything progressives do is to destroy dominant culture.
If most people were trans, they would champion being hetero.
Look at immigration. When Republicans were for amnesty, progressives were against it. When Republicans were for tariffs, progressives fought them.
Progressives love anti scientific subjectivity.
Progressivism is a cult.
This post was edited on 6/3/21 at 11:25 am
Posted on 6/3/21 at 12:00 pm to CoastLSUFan
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Trans man unhappy
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