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Posted on 4/11/16 at 12:39 pm to
Posted by The Sad Banana
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Posted on 4/11/16 at 12:39 pm to
Wait, something fell out of his vehicle and he is charged with vehicular homicide and felony hit and run? I don't get it.
Posted by Mr.Perfect
Louisiana
Member since Mar 2013
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Posted on 4/11/16 at 12:39 pm to
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Jerry Ervin III, 26


should be charged with negligent homicide

quote:

Travis Rose, 50


received the correct charge of vehicular homicide.

Posted by meauxjeaux2
watson
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 4/11/16 at 12:40 pm to
quote:

"Two drivers involved in the four-vehicle incident are suspected of being impaired."

Unbelievable.
completely believable for that area of the LP in a weekend night. Especially with how many people they had on the rivers over the weekend.
Posted by terd ferguson
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Posted on 4/11/16 at 12:40 pm to
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LA Rev Stat § 14:32.1 §32.1.
Vehicular homicide
A. Vehicular homicide is the killing of a human being caused proximately or caused directly by an offender engaged in the operation of, or in actual physical control of, any motor vehicle, aircraft, watercraft, or other means of conveyance, whether or not the offender had the intent to cause death or great bodily harm, whenever any of the following conditions exists and such condition was a contributing factor to the killing:


My guess would be that the "proximately" portion applies. He was driving a vehicle immediately before the accident that directly resulted in the accident that caused the deaths.
This post was edited on 4/11/16 at 12:41 pm
Posted by Mr.Perfect
Louisiana
Member since Mar 2013
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Posted on 4/11/16 at 12:41 pm to
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Wait, something fell out of his vehicle and he is charged with vehicular homicide and felony hit and run? I don't get it.


a fricking trash compactor. It wasn't like a notebook or coke can fell out. And it appears that he knew it fell onto the road and chose to leave it there.
Posted by Ace Midnight
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Posted on 4/11/16 at 12:41 pm to
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vehicular homicide


Here's the statute. Could be, although this will be a non-traditional reading of that statute. Maybe some criminal lawyers can come into the thread and enlighten us about this application:


§32.1. Vehicular homicide

A. Vehicular homicide is the killing of a human being caused proximately or caused directly by an offender engaged in the operation of, or in actual physical control of, any motor vehicle, aircraft, watercraft, or other means of conveyance, whether or not the offender had the intent to cause death or great bodily harm, whenever any of the following conditions exists and such condition was a contributing factor to the killing:

(1) The operator is under the influence of alcoholic beverages as determined by chemical tests administered under the provisions of R.S. 32:662.

(2) The operator's blood alcohol concentration is 0.08 percent or more by weight based upon grams of alcohol per one hundred cubic centimeters of blood.

(3) The operator is under the influence of any controlled dangerous substance listed in Schedule I, II, III, IV, or V as set forth in R.S. 40:964.

(4) The operator is under the influence of alcoholic beverages.

(5)(a) The operator is under the influence of a combination of alcohol and one or more drugs which are not controlled dangerous substances and which are legally obtainable with or without a prescription.

(b) It shall be an affirmative defense to any charge under this Paragraph pursuant to this Section that the label on the container of the prescription drug or the manufacturer's package of the drug does not contain a warning against combining the medication with alcohol.

(6) The operator is under the influence of one or more drugs which are not controlled dangerous substances and which are legally obtainable with or without a prescription and the influence is caused by the operator knowingly consuming quantities of the drug or drugs which substantially exceed the dosage prescribed by the physician or the dosage recommended by the manufacturer of the drug.

B. Whoever commits the crime of vehicular homicide shall be fined not less than two thousand dollars nor more than fifteen thousand dollars and shall be imprisoned with or without hard labor for not less than five years nor more than thirty years. At least three years of the sentence of imprisonment shall be imposed without benefit of probation, parole, or suspension of sentence. If the operator's blood alcohol concentration is 0.15 percent or more by weight based upon grams of alcohol per one hundred cubic centimeters of blood, then at least five years of the sentence of imprisonment shall be imposed without benefit of probation, parole, or suspension of sentence. If the offender was previously convicted of a violation of R.S. 14:98, then at least five years of the sentence of imprisonment shall be imposed without benefit of probation, parole, or suspension of sentence. The court shall require the offender to participate in a court-approved substance abuse program and may require the offender to participate in a court-approved driver improvement program. All driver improvement courses required under this Section shall include instruction on railroad grade crossing safety.
Posted by The Mick
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 4/11/16 at 12:41 pm to
quote:

"Two drivers involved in the four-vehicle incident are suspected of being impaired."

Unbelievable.

quote:

events in LP
Sadly, its not that unbelievable.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 4/11/16 at 12:42 pm to
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In Louisiana, that charge RS 14:32.1 is only available when the operator is impaired in some way, so this is bad reporting or mischarging by the authorities.


The driver who lost the compactor is suspected of being impaired. Not sure if that changes anything, but may explain the reasoning behind that charge.
Posted by Ace Midnight
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Posted on 4/11/16 at 12:44 pm to
And, for additional clarification, it is important because "plain" negligent homicide is a felony, but 5 years, $5k is the maximum.

As you can see, vehicular is 5 to 30 (without enhancements due to BAC levels), and $15k.
Posted by meauxjeaux2
watson
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Posted on 4/11/16 at 12:45 pm to
Just saw on FB the accident happened very near Arbor Walk DR. LINK

How in the hell do you not see traffic triangles approaching on that long of a straight away?
Posted by bencoleman
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Posted on 4/11/16 at 12:45 pm to
Senseless
Posted by terd ferguson
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Posted on 4/11/16 at 12:47 pm to
quote:

Just saw on FB the accident happened very near Arbor Walk DR. LINK

How in the hell do you not see traffic triangles approaching on that long of a straight away?


It's FB... take it for granted that whoever posted it is a misinformed idiot.

Walker South has some bad curves.
This post was edited on 4/11/16 at 12:48 pm
Posted by meauxjeaux2
watson
Member since Oct 2007
60283 posts
Posted on 4/11/16 at 12:49 pm to
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t's FB... take it for granted that whoever posted it is a misinformed idiot.

Walker South has some bad curves.
and my assumption is that it did occur in one of those curves. Guess i'll just ignore her.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 4/11/16 at 12:49 pm to
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Failure to Secure Load seems logical but can you prove that he knew it fell out of his truck? If he didn't know then how could he do anything about it? He was impaired so he is going to have a really hard time defending himself, either way


As you alluded, the argument will be that if he wasn't impaired he would have had the wherewithal to realize it had fallen from his truck.
Posted by East Coast Band
Member since Nov 2010
66993 posts
Posted on 4/11/16 at 12:49 pm to
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Failure to Secure Load seems logical but can you prove that he knew it fell out of his truck?

Bottom line if you don't secure, you're responsible, whether you know it or not.
Same with a hit and run. Imagine hitting someone and just keep going. "Oh, I hit someone? I didn't know that I did, so I'm good? K, thanks. See you later "
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91873 posts
Posted on 4/11/16 at 12:51 pm to
quote:

should be charged with negligent homicide


I guess, but if he was impaired and drove into two vehicles and a group of people on the side of the road, then vehicular homicide sounds appropriate.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91873 posts
Posted on 4/11/16 at 12:53 pm to
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Wait, something fell out of his vehicle and he is charged with vehicular homicide and felony hit and run? I don't get it.


The hit and run portion is a little perplexing, but vehicular homicide makes sense according to the statutes posted in this thread. He was drunk and lost a compactor out of the back of his vehicle/trailer.
Posted by Jcorye1
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Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 4/11/16 at 12:54 pm to
quote:

The driver who lost the compactor is suspected of being impaired. Not sure if that changes anything, but may explain the reasoning behind that charge.



How are they going to prove that? Didn't he go back to his house?
Posted by CharlesLSU
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 4/11/16 at 12:55 pm to
Let's get a little more hate to the 4Runner driver.........frick that tPOS.
Posted by supadave3
Houston, TX
Member since Dec 2005
32409 posts
Posted on 4/11/16 at 12:57 pm to
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How are they going to prove that? Didn't he go back to his house?


That's what I was thinking. I guess that blows the theory about running back to your house to avoid DWI charges out of the water.

It's crazy how much life can change in just a matter of seconds. I feel for that poor mother and her children.
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