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re: Tractor Supply loses $2 billion in market cap. Does a 180 on DEI policy. ETA John Deere...

Posted on 6/29/24 at 1:16 pm to
Posted by Dairy Sanders
Member since Apr 2022
2963 posts
Posted on 6/29/24 at 1:16 pm to
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A company exists solely to return value to investors, whether it be stockholders, owners, or lenders. Profit. Is. All. That. Matters


Ideally yes, which is why any company that wants to be apolitical should remain private. You go public and Vanguard, Blackrock, and State Street will slowly buy up the majority of your shares and they only care about DEI/ESG bullshite. They’ll artificially keep your share price high even if your actual bottom line is suffering because they don’t care about your actual business. They will use and abuse your company’s shares for their social issues and once they have destroyed your brand they will sell off their shares for a profit and move onto the next one. They are locusts and any public American company that doesn’t champion their causes is a target.
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
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Member since Oct 2012
40279 posts
Posted on 6/29/24 at 1:17 pm to
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This just blows me away how stupid these CEOs are. Who the frick in that company’s board room thought catering to LGbtqfjdodncnr and funding sex change operations would be a good idea? Seriously how much money has tractor supply made off the gay community over the years? I would love to know that stat.



But but the OT said that mega corp CEOs were all the most brilliant people on earth and deserve every penny of comp they get. Surely they aren't dumbfricks who trip over their dicks to piss off their core customer every chance they get right???
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
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Member since Oct 2012
40279 posts
Posted on 6/29/24 at 1:19 pm to
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once they have destroyed your brand they will sell off their shares for a profit



Can you think of a single example of Vanguard, Black Rock or State Street destroying a brand and THEN selling it off for profit?


Posted by LSU Neil
Springfield
Member since Feb 2007
3404 posts
Posted on 6/29/24 at 1:54 pm to
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All the boomers said they'd grow out of it once they got in the real world


This is bull shite. You must be hanging around former flower children if this is your take. It’s moronic
Posted by billjamin
Houston
Member since Jun 2019
16648 posts
Posted on 6/29/24 at 2:01 pm to
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Vanguard, Blackrock, and State Stree

I really don’t get this boogeyman dei thing from finance bros. They care about one thing and one thing only. Making money. They do not give a single frick about anything else. I’ve done deals with all 3 of them and can speak from personal experience. They’re really easy to deal with because they only care about that one thing. Everything else is just smoke and mirrors.
Posted by biglego
San Francisco
Member since Nov 2007
83125 posts
Posted on 6/29/24 at 2:09 pm to
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They’re not dropping DEI unless they fire the CEO, head of HR and most of the staff, entire DEI team and kick off the board members that supported DEI.

Correct. It’s impossible to fully understand just how deeply progressivism has poisoned society. It started perhaps in academia. Colleges are pumping woke grads into the workforce. Many will avoid the indoctrination and many will change once into the real world, but many will not. They’re activists and aren’t going to let a little customer outrage derail their goals.

Posted by SoFla Tideroller
South Florida
Member since Apr 2010
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Posted on 6/29/24 at 2:11 pm to
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I really don’t get this boogeyman dei thing from finance bros. They care about one thing and one thing only. Making money.


Your assumption is wrong.
Posted by billjamin
Houston
Member since Jun 2019
16648 posts
Posted on 6/29/24 at 2:14 pm to
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Your assumption is wrong.

I’ve done deals with all three that he listed. I’m speaking from personal experience.
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
78074 posts
Posted on 6/29/24 at 2:28 pm to
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Why the F do companies bend the knee for 2% of the population?
Apparently a few banks which lend the most money insist on high ESG scores. Probably institutional investment corporations such as Vanguard as well.
Posted by UltimaParadox
North Carolina
Member since Nov 2008
51349 posts
Posted on 6/29/24 at 2:30 pm to
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Apparently a few banks which lend the most money insist on high ESG scores. Probably institutional investment corporations such as Vanguard as well.


Ah yes the dark shadows forcing this... Got any sources... Didn't think so
Posted by Dairy Sanders
Member since Apr 2022
2963 posts
Posted on 6/29/24 at 2:31 pm to
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I’ve done deals with all three that he listed. I’m speaking from personal experience


Yeah because low level deals with entry level employees brought you insight into the leadership of those firms.
Posted by UltimaParadox
North Carolina
Member since Nov 2008
51349 posts
Posted on 6/29/24 at 2:32 pm to
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They will use and abuse your company’s shares for their social issues and once they have destroyed your brand they will sell off their shares for a profit


That does not even make any sense. You guys don't event understand why companies like Black Rock own so many shares of every company to begin with
Posted by billjamin
Houston
Member since Jun 2019
16648 posts
Posted on 6/29/24 at 2:34 pm to
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Yeah because low level deals with entry level employees brought you insight into the leadership of those firms.

If you say so man. I don’t really give a shite. Just know that they’re playing you and getting the response they want.
Posted by CarolinaGamecock99
Member since Apr 2015
24519 posts
Posted on 6/29/24 at 2:35 pm to
Posted by UltimaParadox
North Carolina
Member since Nov 2008
51349 posts
Posted on 6/29/24 at 2:46 pm to
Ah yes the one minute clip on YouTube. That fink has walked back. Since he admits it cost his company 4 billion dollars.

Where are the banks requirements documents that require high esg scores to secure a loan?

Do you know that fink and Black Rock are the largest investors in the oil and gas industry?

Guess that is why they get attacked on all sides. He only cares about money and says anything that makes it happen.
Posted by TDTOM
Member since Jan 2021
24667 posts
Posted on 6/29/24 at 2:58 pm to
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Yeah because low level deals with entry level employees brought you insight into the leadership of those firms.


Don't crush his dreams, man. He got a letter from Blackrock with Larry Fink's name stamped at the bottom.
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
52148 posts
Posted on 6/29/24 at 3:00 pm to
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So many fail to understand this.

That’s because they have been selling this shite since at least since 1983 when my Marketing Professor at LSU kept talking about “stakeholders” being the actual constituency that the BOD was supposed to serve, rather than shareholders. Bunch of crap!
Posted by billjamin
Houston
Member since Jun 2019
16648 posts
Posted on 6/29/24 at 3:02 pm to
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Don't crush his dreams, man. He got a letter from Blackrock with Larry Fink's name stamped at the bottom.

It’s funny that the ones trying to talk shite are so clueless about how any of this works. I’m content to let you remain ignorant and get played by the finance bros.
This post was edited on 6/29/24 at 3:05 pm
Posted by biglego
San Francisco
Member since Nov 2007
83125 posts
Posted on 6/29/24 at 3:03 pm to
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So brave.


Your people out there pretending to be oppressed and requiring DEI (anti straight white) as the remedy. But here you are poking fun of anyone who doesn’t support said DEI.

Posted by TDTOM
Member since Jan 2021
24667 posts
Posted on 6/29/24 at 3:05 pm to
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It’s funny that the ones trying to talk shite are so clueless about how any of this works. I’m content to let you remain ignorant get played by the finance bros.


Ah, billjamin. Always the smartest person in every thread.
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