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re: TPC Plant in Port Neches Explosion: Port Neches, Groves, and parts of Nederland Evacuated

Posted on 11/27/19 at 8:50 pm to
Posted by OnTheGeaux
Har Tavor
Member since Oct 2009
3067 posts
Posted on 11/27/19 at 8:50 pm to
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10 day evacuation? You have got to be kidding. Where did you hear that?


Found the 10-day evacuation mandate from a signed order by the Judge of Jefferson County.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/11Ng5Q5j7HWsIGjUs39zzVFkFK7Pq-YFQ/view
This post was edited on 11/27/19 at 8:51 pm
Posted by PipelineBaw
TX
Member since Jan 2019
1422 posts
Posted on 11/27/19 at 9:00 pm to
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That would have to be a bizarre chain of events to cause that type of damage from a US refinery or chemical plant. US plants follow API recommended practices 

Ain't gotta preach to me, brother. But you're telling me a fire is raging next to butadiene storage in a heavily congested industrial and it doesnt make you nervous about it all going boom?

You saw how far it launched that tower and that sumbitch was still on fire as it got launched thru the air. Who's to say a smaller vessel doesnt get launched into a more dangerous area?
Posted by TheBigHurt
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
2378 posts
Posted on 11/27/19 at 9:03 pm to
Well the in-laws will be staying at our place longer than expected.
Posted by jnethe1
Pearland
Member since Dec 2012
16143 posts
Posted on 11/27/19 at 9:15 pm to
What’s the alternative?
Posted by Prominentwon
LSU, McNeese St. Fan
Member since Jan 2005
93714 posts
Posted on 11/27/19 at 9:16 pm to
He’s not going to come back and reply. That was a hit and run
Posted by Ramblin Wreck
Member since Aug 2011
3898 posts
Posted on 11/27/19 at 9:16 pm to
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Ain't gotta preach to me, brother. But you're telling me a fire is raging next to butadiene storage in a heavily congested industrial and it doesnt make you nervous about it all going boom?


Of course, Mama didn’t raise no fool.
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
98702 posts
Posted on 11/27/19 at 9:19 pm to
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Chip Ferguson, managing partner of The Ferguson Law Firm


frick this vulture.

Hope he ends up with weeping clamydia sores
Posted by chinese58
NELA. after 30 years in Dallas.
Member since Jun 2004
30390 posts
Posted on 11/27/19 at 9:48 pm to
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Another view of the explosion
That's the second explosion from this afternoon per KFDM.

Tweet of the same video. (can watch it loop)


A guy responded with a different video. That pipe? that shot into the air comes down.

You can hear it and hear guys watching it yelling.

NSFW NSFW Reply tweet of the same explosion

Guys in the background yelling Holy F*ck!
This post was edited on 11/27/19 at 9:58 pm
Posted by jnethe1
Pearland
Member since Dec 2012
16143 posts
Posted on 11/27/19 at 10:03 pm to
Typical of the simpleton.
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
31041 posts
Posted on 11/27/19 at 10:08 pm to
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That pipe? that shot into the air comes down.



That wasn't a pipe. It was a distillation tower, prolly atleast 6' in diameter and 75' tall.
Posted by TigerFox
Member since Jun 2013
303 posts
Posted on 11/27/19 at 10:40 pm to
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That would have to be a bizarre chain of events to cause that type of damage from a US refinery or chemical plant. US plants follow API recommended practices which include sections on blast radius design, relief valve / depressuring design requirements, mechanical integrity inspection practices / frequencies, etc. Environmental permits are tied to the requirement to adopt and comply with API design practices. As part of that compliance, plants maintain blast zone maps which dictate which buildings in the plant have to be blast resistant. It would be a design or compliance oversight for such a catastrophic series of events to occur that would result in a neighborhood being destroyed. The main concern after an event such as this is air quality. Just to note, not all types of industry fall under API design practices, just petro chemical plants and refineries.



I wonder when those practices were put in place? These towns are literally built right next to the refineries. In fact my little league baseball was played on the grounds that were leased from a refineries tank yard. I imagine a lot of rules have been grandfathered in for plants in this area
Posted by PipelineBaw
TX
Member since Jan 2019
1422 posts
Posted on 11/27/19 at 11:09 pm to


Picture was posted by one of my Indrustrial EMS buddies about an hour ago
Posted by mrservon
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2007
438 posts
Posted on 11/27/19 at 11:23 pm to
Anyone that’s been even close to a petrochem plant, much less worked inside of one, knows that is scorched earth.

Thank god there were no fatalities.

This is a very serious event. Hopefully it is contained soon.

And to the folks assigning blame to loosened regulation & trying to make this political... here’s a huge frick YOU.
Posted by LSUSilverfox
Member since Jun 2007
2690 posts
Posted on 11/27/19 at 11:32 pm to
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Picture was posted by one of my Indrustrial EMS buddies about an hour ago


Your boy must have balls the size of those spheres. frick all that.
Posted by GeorgeTheGreek
Sparta, Greece
Member since Mar 2008
66427 posts
Posted on 11/27/19 at 11:58 pm to
So how does this compare to the 1989 Christmas Eve Exxon Refinery Blast?
Posted by reverendotis
the jawbone of an arse
Member since Nov 2007
4867 posts
Posted on 11/28/19 at 2:02 am to
Thread derailment - why is a judge doing all the stuff a mayor, police chief & fire chief would usually do in a situation like this?

Texas thing?

quote:

Mandatory evacuation order from Jefferson County Judge Branick.


quote:

Jefferson County Judge Jeff Branick, the top county official


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County Judge Jeff Branick says the explosion originated at a plant in Port Neches,
Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
25618 posts
Posted on 11/28/19 at 2:15 am to
TX code allows mayors or judges to make mandatory evacuation orders. TX is one of only a few states to allow agents of the government to compel people to leave and use reasonable force to remove them if they refuse.
Posted by biohzrd
Central City
Member since Jan 2010
5602 posts
Posted on 11/28/19 at 5:00 am to
You can see in the pic the tower in the center is damaged and listing, as well as the scorching of the paint on the spheres closest. If one of those pops off it gonna start a huge chain reaction, with major damage to a larger area.

For those unfamiliar with the petrochemical industry. When chemicals get put into spheres, it's bad shite, and under pressure for a reason. This could get pretty ugly if the wind shifts.
Posted by Kyrie Eleison
Waco, Texas
Member since Jul 2012
1560 posts
Posted on 11/28/19 at 5:28 am to
except in certain very limited circumstances, a county judge in Texas isn’t a judicial officer. their role is chief executive officer of a county.
Posted by Crow Pie
Neuro ICU - Tulane Med Center
Member since Feb 2010
25311 posts
Posted on 11/28/19 at 5:50 am to
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For those unfamiliar with the petrochemical industry. When chemicals get put into spheres, it's bad shite, and under pressure for a reason
No doubt the spheres can be high pressure....they surely must have a plan to evacuate/off load the material in the spheres when a situation like this occurs?
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