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Posted on 11/13/15 at 12:12 pm to
Posted by Paige
Vice President of the OT
Member since Oct 2010
85640 posts
Posted on 11/13/15 at 12:12 pm to
I'm having a hard time understanding what you mean by required to be a jerk


reminds me of trying to explain to someone that parenting in itself is not mean, but some people are a-hole parents
Posted by Jcorye1
Tom Brady = GoAT
Member since Dec 2007
76373 posts
Posted on 11/13/15 at 12:13 pm to
quote:

I'm having a hard time understanding what you mean by required to be a jerk



There's no nice way to give someone a bill that will ruin their closely held family company.
Posted by Negative Nomad
Hell
Member since Oct 2011
3173 posts
Posted on 11/13/15 at 12:15 pm to
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This post was edited on 5/16/16 at 10:16 pm
Posted by wfallstiger
Wichita Falls, Texas
Member since Jun 2006
16083 posts
Posted on 11/13/15 at 12:15 pm to
People get themselves reprimanded or course corrected and in some cases fired...there is a right way and wrong way to approach such things and being a jerk is not one of them...if the reasoning is sound for the intervention why be a jerk?
Posted by Codythetiger
Arkansas
Member since Nov 2006
30488 posts
Posted on 11/13/15 at 12:16 pm to
Like what he means Paige in our industry is you have to deal with laziness and people just not wanting to work. But see I'm middleman so I get heat from the Customers about the laziness of the people moving my freight.

For instance, I had a driver on a hot load who had to go Iowa to CA and that fricker was moving 400 miles a day "Wide open" as he said

Let's just say they ate a grand worth of late charges but I had to hear for 2 days the bitching coming from the lady this product was going to. They kept 2 guys over night to take a load off that never showed up until the next afternoon. Was not a good morning to walk into the office.

I got on the phone with the driver and laid into him. That carrier line will no longer haul our freight.

Yet there are some instances I got "Bob" from Albany able to truck all night and get a 1k mile trip done in like 19 hours... Those people, I like to pay. I call them when I get similar loads to see if they are in the area and want to do my stuff again
Posted by partsman103
Member since Sep 2008
8800 posts
Posted on 11/13/15 at 12:27 pm to
When at work, its time to work and if you screw around, you"ll feel the wrath.

Outside of work is the time for friendship and such.
Posted by DelU249
Austria
Member since Dec 2010
77625 posts
Posted on 11/13/15 at 12:30 pm to
You work in Mandeville representing an office in Memphis for a company that's centered in I think Kansas City. That's my guess at least
Posted by Codythetiger
Arkansas
Member since Nov 2006
30488 posts
Posted on 11/13/15 at 4:19 pm to
I live in Arkansas


Anyways, now lets get down to business. What we hauling? Send me over a bid sheet and I'll get it back to ya
Posted by YOURADHERE
Member since Dec 2006
8551 posts
Posted on 11/13/15 at 4:32 pm to
I'm in the same industry, deal with that shite daily.

I once had a customer call to bitch because a driver had backed up to a dock, fell asleep in his sleeper, had a heart attack and died at the loading site. She called to bitch that we should send healthier drivers, nevermind some poor guy had just died 15 minutes prior.

Suggestions for dealing? I've recently considered becoming an alcoholic, in my 10 years of doing this I've yet to find a better option.
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
37483 posts
Posted on 11/13/15 at 4:33 pm to
quote:

quote:
I've never had to and never will have to fire anyone thank god


Ironically, I've never fired anyone.


Then what are they explaining to their wife and kids?

ETA: read more, never mind
This post was edited on 11/13/15 at 4:38 pm
Posted by TheDeathValley
Louisiana
Member since Sep 2010
20792 posts
Posted on 11/13/15 at 4:37 pm to
Im an EHS Manager (Safety guy) and I would much rather they think I am an a-hole, than them get hurt or die. I do not have guilt.

My job says A + B = C and if they are not doing A or B to get to C, I say something. Simple as that.
Posted by tigersownall
Thibodaux
Member since Sep 2011
17210 posts
Posted on 11/13/15 at 4:40 pm to
I try to be patient with people, but only for so long. If they start giving me shite because I'm giving them shite. I'll go off. Because my shite giving is warranted. I will tell people that they suck and should maybe think about another career field.

Eta: this is when I worked in a kitchen
This post was edited on 11/13/15 at 4:57 pm
Posted by CelticDog
Member since Apr 2015
42867 posts
Posted on 11/13/15 at 4:55 pm to
you do not have to be a jerk.

have scruples. have compassion.

DO UNTO OTHERS AS YOU WOULD HAVE THEM DO UNTO YOU.

Actually, Do unto others as Jesus would do unto them. Grow a pair.
Posted by athenslife101
Member since Feb 2013
20650 posts
Posted on 11/13/15 at 5:38 pm to
A huge part of my jobs to be a dick when it's called for. Sometimes I'm asked to try and break people down to see if they can handle the stress. Sometimes it's much harder than others and occasionally people will be fired for failing to handle it.

But my mindset is this. If you can't handle stress with me, how can you handle stress in a live environment with huge consequences on the line.
Posted by rantfan
new iberia la
Member since Nov 2012
14110 posts
Posted on 11/13/15 at 6:01 pm to
Quality Manager- I have to make sure everybody in all departments are doing there jobs as per written procedures and customer specs.
When somebody doesn't follow procedure and it found by auditors it's ultimately my problem to fix.
I write them up and retrain. Too many write ups cost them money and job security. I don't bullshite them. Many tried to backstab me at first. My boss knows I have my arse covered in every instance . I'm hated and I love it.
This post was edited on 11/13/15 at 6:08 pm
Posted by RealityTiger
Geismar, LA
Member since Jan 2010
20543 posts
Posted on 11/13/15 at 6:18 pm to
quote:

EHS Manager (Safety guy) and I would much rather they think I am an a-hole, than them get hurt or die. I do not have guilt.



This is what I was thinking the OP was.
Posted by Martini
Near Athens
Member since Mar 2005
49697 posts
Posted on 11/13/15 at 6:18 pm to
I don't have any guilt. Let me ask my wife - she is my designated hatchet woman. And from what I've been told she can be a real bitch. But don't quote me on that. She might can me.
Posted by thekid
Anna, Tx
Member since May 2006
4051 posts
Posted on 11/13/15 at 6:32 pm to
Two different types of firing...for performance or force reduction...
If it's performance, I make sure I give them every chance to improve and make sure they know the consequences of not...usually don't feel guilty about that...laying people off is different but just rationalize that it is your job and its either do that or you won't be successful...and that is motivating to me.

Also, don't get close to people that report to you...unless you own your own business...it makes the difficult conversations that more difficult.
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