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Posted on 1/30/25 at 10:21 pm to
Posted by Trapped in time
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Posted on 1/30/25 at 10:21 pm to
It takes 2-3 years( per the intereebs )to become a Blackhawk pilot. Not sure how that doesn't coincide with being a pilot a couple years after joining army.
Posted by Hangit
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Posted on 1/30/25 at 10:22 pm to
Has it been proven that the "female" pilot was born with a hang down?
Posted by SirWinston
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Posted on 1/30/25 at 10:25 pm to
Yeah but 28 year old straight girls dont suddenly become blackhawk pilots like this story or the trans story from Smerkonich show. It seems at least possible that the woke Army was recruiting rainbow peeps for high profile roles in line with their other degenerate initiatives.
This post was edited on 1/30/25 at 10:27 pm
Posted by HerkFlyer
Auburn, AL
Member since Jan 2018
3212 posts
Posted on 1/30/25 at 10:29 pm to
[quote]Wouldn't the glide slope for a runway be a big absolutely not no fly zone for anything except landing aircraft?[/quote

300 feet and one mile from the approach end of a busy runway is no place to be. I’ve flown a lot of approaches to DCA(the Mount Vernon 01 in this case) and there’s always helicopter traffic. It’s usually not a threat.

The helicopter took visual separation when they should have taken a vector for traffic.

I’ve also heard the tower controller was working arrivals and departures, plus VFR transitions. That shouldn’t happen. Arrivals and departures at Reagan are enough workload for the smartest among us. They clear flights to “line up and wait” as soon as the landing aircraft crosses the threshold, then you get cleared to takeoff with a jet on a three mile final. It’s a high ops tempo environment. You have to be paying attention. From what I understand they normally use two controllers for that. One to work landing and departing traffic and one to handle transiting vfr traffic.
This post was edited on 1/30/25 at 10:44 pm
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Posted on 1/30/25 at 10:32 pm to
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The helicopter took visual separation


I saw this a few times in here. What's that mean? Telling ATC they see it and will avoid it?
Posted by Trapped in time
Member since Mar 2023
591 posts
Posted on 1/30/25 at 10:37 pm to
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Yeah but 28 year old straight girls dont suddenly become blackhawk pilots


Couple of years isn’t “suddenly”

Why the F am I arguing this ?
Posted by HerkFlyer
Auburn, AL
Member since Jan 2018
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Posted on 1/30/25 at 10:37 pm to
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I saw this a few times in here. What's that mean? Telling ATC they see it and will avoid it?

That’s exactly what it means. You have to be damn sure of what you’re looking at when you assume that responsibility.
Posted by Havoc
Member since Nov 2015
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Posted on 1/30/25 at 10:38 pm to
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Has it been proven that the "female" pilot was born with a hang down?

Careful. We saw how the OT Tranny mob attacked HRV because he didn’t want to eat trans food. Could be you.
Posted by jorconalx
alexandria
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Posted on 1/30/25 at 10:42 pm to
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HRV


Fairly certain that dude is insane irl
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Posted on 1/30/25 at 10:44 pm to
It seems the ATC was specific enough in where the plane was at the time for the helo crew to get the correct mark? Just a good ol fashioned frick up?

Itd be damned hard to do on purpose, much less on accident. I wonder how many times this happens around the world where everyone just gets lucky?
Posted by Havoc
Member since Nov 2015
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Posted on 1/30/25 at 10:48 pm to
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Fairly certain that dude is insane irl

I can’t disagree.
Posted by wm72
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2010
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Posted on 1/30/25 at 10:55 pm to
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’ve also heard the tower controller was working arrivals and departures, plus VFR transitions. That shouldn’t happen.


It will be surprising if one of the things that, even if it didn't cause the crash, may have prevented it goes back to controllers stretched thin due to FAA budget cuts.

Posted by HerkFlyer
Auburn, AL
Member since Jan 2018
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Posted on 1/30/25 at 11:01 pm to
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It seems the ATC was specific enough in where the plane was at the time for the helo crew to get the correct mark? Just a good ol fashioned frick up?


.ATC will state a clock position and a distance/altitude . “Callsign XX traffic 2 o’clock and 1 mile XX Feet.

I’m not sure if they gave PAT25 that callout. I need to listen to the tapes again. From what I recall of the tapes, PAT25 took visual separation.

Maybe unrelated, but PAT25 was using UHF apparently. It’s basically a military only comm channel. I was taught early on as a military aviator to not use UHF in congested civilian airspace because the civilians can’t hear you. All air traffic controllers simulcast on VHF(civilian frequencies) and UHF. That’s why you can’t hear PAT25’s responses on liveATC.
This post was edited on 1/30/25 at 11:25 pm
Posted by HerkFlyer
Auburn, AL
Member since Jan 2018
3212 posts
Posted on 1/30/25 at 11:07 pm to
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It will be surprising if one of the things that, even if it didn't cause the crash, may have prevented it goes back to controllers stretched thin due to FAA budget cuts.


My experience post covid is that controllers are stretched thin. I talk to A LOT of controllers working multiple frequencies. Didn’t used to happen. It’s usually center controllers where the workload isn’t as high.
Posted by Tuscaloosa
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Posted on 1/30/25 at 11:58 pm to
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I’m not sure if they gave PAT25 that callout. I need to listen to the tapes again. From what I recall of the tapes, PAT25 took visual separation.


This was their initial traffic call to PAT25:

quote:

PAT25, traffic just south of the Woodrow Bridge, a CRJ, it's 1200 feet setting up for runway 33
Posted by jizzle6609
Houston
Member since Jul 2009
19988 posts
Posted on 1/31/25 at 12:30 am to
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It takes 2-3 years( per the intereebs )to become a Blackhawk pilot.



Blackhawk not Kamikaze
Posted by SirWinston
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Posted on 1/31/25 at 12:50 am to
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Has it been proven that the "female" pilot was born with a hang down?


As far fetched as it sounds, there are rumours of this sort flowing on the great Elon Musk's X platform as well as his fellow social media visionary Chicken's Political Talk forum.
This post was edited on 1/31/25 at 12:51 am
Posted by EarlDibblesJr
Big Thicket
Member since Oct 2020
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Posted on 1/31/25 at 2:08 am to
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as well as his fellow social media visionary Chicken's Political Talk forum.


You go to the Poli board for credibility?
Posted by RollTide1987
Baltimore, MD
Member since Nov 2009
71112 posts
Posted on 1/31/25 at 4:14 am to
If you have landed at DCA in the recent past you can definitely see how they are understaffed. I lived in Alexandria, VA from 2019-2023 and used DCA to fly home for leave and holiday gatherings. I definitely noticed a drop off in the quality of moving planes to where they needed to be by 2023. One time we were sitting on the taxiway for something like 25-30 minutes waiting for instructions as to which gate they wanted us to pull up to.
This post was edited on 1/31/25 at 4:16 am
Posted by tilco
Spanish Fort, AL
Member since Nov 2013
14473 posts
Posted on 1/31/25 at 5:49 am to
It’s looking like there’s something fricky. We know the identity of 2 of the 3. They’re with holding info. Makes me think they’re digging into this persons past and finding some shite that gives them pause.
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