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re: Tony Spell arrested for Battery!
Posted on 6/26/26 at 7:09 pm to Scoob
Posted on 6/26/26 at 7:09 pm to Scoob
And just from my own point of view;
if I were truly concerned that these people did intend to harm or kill my family, I'm not going over there alone without backup. I'm not thinking a simple asswhipping (5 stitches to the chin) solves anything. And if I'm confronting one of them, I'm wondering where the other is. Because if I think they may kill my family, then I will think they might kill me too... and I'm an easy target while I'm in front of their house, straddling one and just throwing fists. That's a good way to catch a 9 in the back of the skull, and giving them at least reasonable cause to do it. If they were going to do it anyway without justification, surely "defending your family in front of your house" makes it a lot easier to get away with.
And almost any reasonable adult would probably agree with that. So that's why I'm questioning what exactly was said; I'm assuming Spell has better survival instinct than to put himself in mortal risk that way. I don't think he was really that worried about them.
if I were truly concerned that these people did intend to harm or kill my family, I'm not going over there alone without backup. I'm not thinking a simple asswhipping (5 stitches to the chin) solves anything. And if I'm confronting one of them, I'm wondering where the other is. Because if I think they may kill my family, then I will think they might kill me too... and I'm an easy target while I'm in front of their house, straddling one and just throwing fists. That's a good way to catch a 9 in the back of the skull, and giving them at least reasonable cause to do it. If they were going to do it anyway without justification, surely "defending your family in front of your house" makes it a lot easier to get away with.
And almost any reasonable adult would probably agree with that. So that's why I'm questioning what exactly was said; I'm assuming Spell has better survival instinct than to put himself in mortal risk that way. I don't think he was really that worried about them.
Posted on 6/26/26 at 7:11 pm to Scoob
Why was the dude recording it? What did he say to get the pastor to cross the street? I doubt he recorded that. But unbeknownst to him he was recorded taking his shoes off and throwing the first punch or two. And then he got an epic arse whipping.
Posted on 6/26/26 at 7:17 pm to Scoob
The days of some trashy person talking shite and then someone confronting them are over. If someone yells obscenities like that I’m confronting them. A bunch of pussies now including this poster. Gtfo
Posted on 6/26/26 at 8:11 pm to Billieboy
quote:Spell's stated justification was that those people made credible threats against his family that he took seriously, and that the police didn't act on despite him reporting it. And that it had been ongoing for years.
The days of some trashy person talking shite and then someone confronting them are over. If someone yells obscenities like that I’m confronting them. A bunch of pussies now including this poster. Gtfo
That's different than talking shite.
Posted on 6/26/26 at 8:16 pm to UptownJoeBrown
quote:
This lawyer is a complete idiot for letting his client give a press conference. All will be used against him in court. No telling what he will say.
Supposedly, all those people standing behind him are witnesses that can corroborate his assertions. If so, then what's the problem with what he said?
Posted on 6/26/26 at 8:23 pm to Mung
FA/FO.
I have to ask, if someone did that to your wife or grandkids, what WOULD YOU DO?
Man up, bro.
I have to ask, if someone did that to your wife or grandkids, what WOULD YOU DO?
Man up, bro.
Posted on 6/26/26 at 8:47 pm to AlwysATgr
quote:My understanding is that they could attest to the past and ongoing threats and harassment, which is why I asked the other guy if he'd notified the police, and what happened when he did so.
Supposedly, all those people standing behind him are witnesses that can corroborate his assertions. If so, then what's the problem with what he said?
That carries a lot more weight than showing up after the guy gets arrested and then saying there is a problem.
Spell said a lot of things in that presser, so now his credibility is tied up with those claims.
Posted on 6/26/26 at 8:55 pm to RoosterCogburn585
Tony Spell just exposed how rotten some "Christianity" is in America.
Many are called but few are chosen.
The comments in these threads convict the false doctrine many people cling to as divine.
Many are called but few are chosen.
The comments in these threads convict the false doctrine many people cling to as divine.
This post was edited on 6/27/26 at 10:30 am
Posted on 6/26/26 at 8:57 pm to Scoob
quote:
Scoob
As you posted earlier, you have an axe to grind with the pastor/church. Fair enough.
But it seems like the composite narrative you're forcing yourself into is something along the lines of:
- The pastor, on a whim or maybe he didn't like that someone from across the street was filming, stopped what he was doing, ran/walked across the street, and engaged the son? That there was no pre-history, just an unhinged pastor?
OTOH, the photos others have posted in this thread, the oddity of someone standing on the shoulder and filming (may be legal but who does that?), that the son tries calling for someone as the pastor approaches, that he immediately kicks-off his crocs and starts punching, those who were willing to stand behind the pastor at this press conference - all support his assertions.
FTR, I have no idea how this plays out legally. But if the son is threatening violence, is it not allowed for someone to confront him?
And what does it mean for the local LEO to have a record "on file?" If I wanted to report someone making lewd gestures or verbal threats, does that mean I have to physically go to a police precinct to do so? Most believers will as much as is possible try to live at peace with others so they aren't trying to escalate things.
Posted on 6/26/26 at 9:21 pm to AlwysATgr
Apparently, the kid, Toby Sherwin was also attacked in July of 2025 by a guy named Vance Gossett who appears to maybe go to the church? He appears to be an ex-felon based on Google searches.
This post was edited on 6/26/26 at 9:56 pm
Posted on 6/26/26 at 9:24 pm to AlwysATgr
Man those Sherries are complete and total inborn white trash. What’s the deal there?
Posted on 6/26/26 at 9:55 pm to AlwysATgr
quote:
those people standing behind him are witnesses
I’ll probably call them cult members over witnesses
Posted on 6/26/26 at 9:58 pm to Glock17
I wish Tony would come at me like that.. he would end up looking worse than his victim. But then I would be thrown under the jail.
Posted on 6/26/26 at 10:00 pm to UptownJoeBrown
quote:
This lawyer is a complete idiot for letting his client give a press conference. All will be used against him in court. No telling what he will say.
It's simple battery. He's not going to Shawshank.
Posted on 6/26/26 at 10:04 pm to AlwysATgr
How can someone have a crazy tooth like that and not take care of it?
That tooth is wild
That tooth is wild
Posted on 6/26/26 at 10:23 pm to UptownJoeBrown
quote:
UptownJoeBrown
you need to be humbled along with that kid. It took an arse kicking for him. Might need the same thing for you.
Posted on 6/26/26 at 11:52 pm to AlwysATgr
quote:First impressions are hard to shake. Fair enough.
As you posted earlier, you have an axe to grind with the pastor/church. Fair enough.
quote:Not really sure what I believe.
But it seems like the composite narrative you're forcing yourself into is something along the lines of:
- The pastor, on a whim or maybe he didn't like that someone from across the street was filming, stopped what he was doing, ran/walked across the street, and engaged the son? That there was no pre-history, just an unhinged pastor?
OTOH, the photos others have posted in this thread, the oddity of someone standing on the shoulder and filming (may be legal but who does that?), that the son tries calling for someone as the pastor approaches, that he immediately kicks-off his crocs and starts punching, those who were willing to stand behind the pastor at this press conference - all support his assertions.
I'm sure there is some history between Spell and the family; he asserts it's been going on about 6 years. I'll point out that the guy he beat up was 20, so that goes back to when he was 14. So that, to me, makes it more between Spell and the guy's father, not this 20 yr old.
As for the assertions;
Spell, again, claims this is ongoing and has been happening awhile. He says there have been threats to rape and kill his family. He says he's reported it multiple times and the police are actively ignoring or deleting his complaints, and that they (the police) are supporting and in league with the opposing family.
He says that they are out there constantly harassing people going to his church.
To that, I would say- if someone makes a credible, believable threat to kill or harm your family, and it's ongoing, you need to involve the police. You can't be vigilant 24-7, and you can't be everywhere.
If you are attending a church and being harassed consistently, you also need to get police involvement. Somebody said there's about 1000 people who attend, that's a lot of potential victims. We have seen church shootings and it's nothing to take lightly.
I would also say this- if you have notified the (local) police multiple times with no action, and you believe they're facilitating it, you need to go upstream to State PD and the Attorney General. Maybe not a viable option for a couple of squabbling neighbors, but the pastor of a church definitely should pursue that, up to reaching out to federal entities if need be. He has the resources to pursue that.
And if that's going on, I think the people of Central deserve to know of it. I suspect most voters in the area do not want to have a corrupt police chief or mayor, etc. Some of the wealthy folk might, because they are the ones running it, but the majority don't.
quote:We supposedly aren't talking about isolated incidents. Crazy dude yells at you once in a parking lot, you're a little shocked and disturbed, watch yourself as you leave, and let it go after awhile.
And what does it mean for the local LEO to have a record "on file?" If I wanted to report someone making lewd gestures or verbal threats, does that mean I have to physically go to a police precinct to do so? Most believers will as much as is possible try to live at peace with others so they aren't trying to escalate things.
Continuing pattern, that's different. If he is out there all the time (a lot of the time) I'd be concerned that sooner or later there will be more than words flying.
quote:At your own risk. Sounds from the timeframe, it's the dad who this started up with (assuming Spell hasn't been feuding with a teenager the whole time).
But if the son is threatening violence, is it not allowed for someone to confront him?
If dad is threatening to kill you and yours, beating his son up in their front yard sounds like "here I am, come shoot me". Suppose dad was there and took him up on the offer? Then what, you're dead and your family is still in danger.
I'd not go over, but I'd file some police reports and make it clearly known I take these threats seriously, and would not hesitate to use deadly force to protect my family if necessary.
The situation is shitty and I'm glad I don't have to deal with that myself. Wouldn't wish it on anyone. But yeah, if I believed someone intended to harm my family, I treat that person as a threat accordingly. We ain't throwing hands, one of us isn't walking away.
Posted on 6/27/26 at 12:37 am to AlwysATgr
quote:so in the course of my life, I've had to call police a couple times. Nothing like this, but theft, or reporting something I saw.
And what does it mean for the local LEO to have a record "on file?" If I wanted to report someone making lewd gestures or verbal threats, does that mean I have to physically go to a police precinct to do so? Most believers will as much as is possible try to live at peace with others so they aren't trying to escalate things.
They responded by a cop coming, taking a statement, and handing me a card with a case # written on it.
Stands to reason something like that would occur with this, especially if there are multiple witnesses to ongoing events
Posted on 6/27/26 at 12:55 am to AlwysATgr
dude doesn't look like it took a bit of effort whipping that piece of shite's arse
Posted on 6/27/26 at 1:15 am to Scoob
quote:
Stands to reason something like that would occur with this, especially if there are multiple witnesses to ongoing events
I mean there's at least one video of the dad making vulgar gestures with a police officer parked right next to him.
It seems like he was somewhat sure that nothing would come of any report.
I think both parties are at fault here.
The family seems to be mad at the church for some reason (seems to stem from the Covid thing) and the church has a problem with them as well, no telling who actually started it really.
This post was edited on 6/27/26 at 1:27 am
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