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re: Toilet thought of the day: Have politics always been this divisive?
Posted on 11/9/18 at 9:03 am to RogerTheShrubber
Posted on 11/9/18 at 9:03 am to RogerTheShrubber
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As a kid growing up in the late 60's and 70's, the old wisdom was to not discuss politics or religion. People still didn't care for the other side but it wasn't this life or death "sky screaming" tantrum throwing, protest every single day crap we're dealing with today.
Vietnam vets were spit on and called baby murderers. Many of these men were drafted and had no choice.
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Posted on 11/9/18 at 9:05 am to cwil177
Politics have always been this divisive, or worse. Its just that more people have a voice now through social media.
If there was social media in 1800s, it would be much worse.
If there was social media in 1800s, it would be much worse.
This post was edited on 11/9/18 at 9:05 am
Posted on 11/9/18 at 9:05 am to cwil177
Good times. And the gov refused to call it a war.
Posted on 11/9/18 at 9:06 am to 13SaintTiger
Conservative has nothing to do with tradition.
Conservative is supposed to mean less government in your life and more personal responsibility
Conservative is supposed to mean less government in your life and more personal responsibility
Posted on 11/9/18 at 9:08 am to Bunk Moreland
quote:I hate the echo chambers.
Despite the free flow of information now, everyone just retreats to their echo chamber
Posted on 11/9/18 at 9:08 am to AUCE05
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Yes. Mother frickers used to duel with pistols on the white house lawn.
We need to bring back dueling. An elegant solution from a more civilized age.
Posted on 11/9/18 at 9:09 am to 13SaintTiger
I think during the 80's & 90's it was divisive, but both sides could work together and pass bills that either side brought to the table. When W won in 2000, the left was really butt hurt from Gore losing. There was a good year or two of patriotism and working together after 9/11, but the mud slinging really picked up steam with the next election and John Kerry. After that, it was totally partisan when Pelosi and Harry Reid took control of congress.
This post was edited on 11/9/18 at 9:10 am
Posted on 11/9/18 at 9:09 am to Salmon
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Why did the media change?
24/7 cable news and social media that rewards clicks.
Plus, people are far more likely to engage with negative news than positive.
Posted on 11/9/18 at 9:11 am to Centinel
It was the orginal knuckle check at Sonic.
Posted on 11/9/18 at 9:11 am to 13SaintTiger
Between every idiot having a microphone in the form of Facebook/Twitter and the 24-7 media pushing opinions and encouraging tensions for their ratings, its only going to get worse.
Gone are the good old days when it was generally frowned upon to bring up politics in casual conversation.
Gone are the good old days when it was generally frowned upon to bring up politics in casual conversation.
Posted on 11/9/18 at 9:11 am to RogerTheShrubber
Right. The media gives society what they want to consume.
It's why I don't blame media. They are whores, sure, but most of us are whores in some way.
It's why I don't blame media. They are whores, sure, but most of us are whores in some way.
Posted on 11/9/18 at 9:21 am to 13SaintTiger
I first became politically aware during Clinton's years. I never thought there was a more hated president by his enemies. Then came Bush. Then came Obama. And now Trump. Seems like the hate for each by their enemies just keeps growing.
Posted on 11/9/18 at 9:23 am to Salmon
Also, when someone was tagged with treason, we hung them. There was a guy close to my home town that was a part of the Lincoln assination. You can google that group and see a painting of the hanging scene. We didn't frick around.
Posted on 11/9/18 at 9:24 am to redneck hippie
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I never thought there was a more hated president by his enemies.
Reagan. the left absolutely hated him, but didn't have social media to get organized.
Posted on 11/9/18 at 9:25 am to AUCE05
We still assassinate people these days, it is just character assassination.
Posted on 11/9/18 at 9:29 am to ElJefe686
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No, they haven't always been this divisive. The polarization of politics is scary and saddening to me because it means people are succumbing to binary partisan politics. Nobody is talking, working together, or trying to find better systems and ideas just because someone of another group suggests it.
Remember when we used to not vote out of apathy? Or get upset about someone's tie or color of suit? Yeah, I miss those days
as already pointed out, we had a civil war. We've had riots, marches, demonstrations, etc.
This is nothing new. Its just new to...you.
Posted on 11/9/18 at 9:31 am to AUCE05
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Also, when someone was tagged with treason, we hung them. There was a guy close to my home town that was a part of the Lincoln assination. You can google that group and see a painting of the hanging scene. We didn't frick around.
In general, harsh penalties helped keep political strife down.
The main issue today is access. Even in the 60's, while you had these turbulent times you also had the counterculture movements in which you could be oblivious to the politics of the day, or living in a nice suburb where there was little political division. That's damn near impossible now.
Posted on 11/9/18 at 9:32 am to tigerinthebueche
to me its akin to people that grew up in the 80s and 90s talking about how great and wonderful times were during their childhood
and they probably were in everyone's little bubble, but that doesn't change the fact that as country, the 80s and 90s were objectively the worst decades in our modern history
and they probably were in everyone's little bubble, but that doesn't change the fact that as country, the 80s and 90s were objectively the worst decades in our modern history
This post was edited on 11/9/18 at 9:33 am
Posted on 11/9/18 at 9:33 am to 13SaintTiger
We are not shooting at each other, yet
Posted on 11/9/18 at 9:34 am to GusMcRae
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Conservative has nothing to do with tradition
Yes it does, it’s the definition of conservative
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