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re: Today’s episode of FAFO. Big dude threatens little guy and gets lead buffet

Posted on 2/25/25 at 8:48 am to
Posted by CocomoLSU
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Posted on 2/25/25 at 8:48 am to
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In something like the Byron Smith case where the guy neutralized the teens breaking into his house and taunted them after they were already completely neutralized and then execution style took them out. You aren't going to get a break from that like the case above. The case above could go either way depending on jury and prosecutors. Byron Smith screwed up recording his dumba** doing what he did, which was well passed threat neutralized.

Man, I must have somehow missed the boat on that case (or just not remember it). But even after reading about it and listening to the audio of him killing them, I still am not sure he needs to spend the rest of his life in prison. They broke into his home and he defended it. Yes, what he did was maybe extreme (but even that's arguable depending on what side you take), but it goes back to my point above where if you break into someone's home willingly and intentionally, then anything that happens after that is sort of on you. Was he cruel? Maybe. But he was lawfully in his own home defending it after multiple burglaries there.

Obviously the recordings fricked him in the end. But even in the audio he's saying that he feels safer and lives less in fear than he did before wiping out those assholes. I find it hard to have sympathy on the kids he killed simply because he shot them too many times and called them vermin.
Posted by aTmTexas Dillo
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Posted on 2/25/25 at 9:45 am to
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The big dude had it coming no doubt, but I counted seven shots, four or five of which came when the guy had gotten off him and was running away. The angle of the big guy trying to run and being shot while flailing in midair is pretty damning. Going to be a tough court case.

Skinny dude said he practiced. When it happened he was a little enthusiastic.
Posted by Dam Guide
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Posted on 2/25/25 at 10:39 am to
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Man, I must have somehow missed the boat on that case (or just not remember it). But even after reading about it and listening to the audio of him killing them, I still am not sure he needs to spend the rest of his life in prison. They broke into his home and he defended it. Yes, what he did was maybe extreme (but even that's arguable depending on what side you take), but it goes back to my point above where if you break into someone's home willingly and intentionally, then anything that happens after that is sort of on you. Was he cruel? Maybe. But he was lawfully in his own home defending it after multiple burglaries there.

Obviously the recordings fricked him in the end. But even in the audio he's saying that he feels safer and lives less in fear than he did before wiping out those assholes. I find it hard to have sympathy on the kids he killed simply because he shot them too many times and called them vermin.


Dude was a nutjob that didn't even bother to call police until the next day. He deserved what he got for the way he went about everything. That was a clear over the line of self defense. Recordings definitely ruined any chance of had of a defense.

I have no sympathy for the robbers though, they deserved to be shot for breaking and entering. As law abiding people though, we need to hold ourselves to better standards than this nutjob.
This post was edited on 2/25/25 at 10:43 am
Posted by Grievous Angel
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Posted on 2/25/25 at 10:43 am to
It's like Snickers: it really satisfies.
Posted by CocomoLSU
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Posted on 2/25/25 at 12:58 pm to
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Dude was a nutjob that didn't even bother to call police until the next day

I agree that was the most damning thing against him, no question.
Posted by TheWalrus
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Posted on 2/25/25 at 3:26 pm to
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Posted by MorbidTheClown
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 5/8/25 at 7:28 am to
When he takes the hat off.... walk away.

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Posted by Loup
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Posted on 5/8/25 at 7:40 am to
dude got lucky that car door kept big guy from getting control. it's risky drawing when that close
Posted by Boudreauboudreaugoly
Land of the Rice n Son
Member since Oct 2017
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Posted on 5/8/25 at 7:50 am to
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'm all for defending yourself but actions like this can land you in prison depending on the location and DA in charge.


Nope. Rule #1 is pull the trigger until you are sure the threat is neutralized.
This post was edited on 5/8/25 at 8:29 am
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 5/8/25 at 8:00 am to
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Is that self defense or is Skinny Pete in prison for life ?


I'd love to know what happened to Skinny Pete. If I'm on a jury, not guilty.

I mean, if the big dude approaches a cop like that the cop is taking the big dude down too. It should be not different between cops and regular citizens trying to defend themselves.
Posted by MorbidTheClown
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 5/8/25 at 8:03 am to
Posted by forkedintheroad
Member since Feb 2025
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Posted on 5/8/25 at 8:07 am to
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That changes it from defense to homicide.


That's up to a jury.

The threat could have come back.

It's completely arguable.
Posted by Godfather1
What WAS St George, Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
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Posted on 5/8/25 at 8:08 am to
I was expecting this to be another Big Lee thread.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 5/8/25 at 8:08 am to
I just read the follow up story on Skinny Pete. The DA did not prosecute. Self defense.
Posted by oleheat
Sportsman's Paradise
Member since Mar 2007
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Posted on 5/8/25 at 8:21 am to
It's always best to go around being polite. Stuff like this is easy to avoid. I too am a big dude.

But I'm a polite big dude. Don't go looking for it- lest you'll eventually find it.
Posted by oleheat
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Posted on 5/8/25 at 8:27 am to
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I just read the follow up story on Skinny Pete. The DA did not prosecute. Self defense.



I'd agree with that. Adrenaline is very hard if not impossible to shut down when your life was on the line seconds earlier. The smaller man may very well have ended up beaten to death or with severe life altering injuries, had he not put a stop to the clear aggressor. A large, violent aggressor. Who is willing to leave their life in the hands of such a person?

Just my take.
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