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re: Today’s episode of FAFO. Big dude threatens little guy and gets lead buffet
Posted on 2/23/25 at 8:15 pm to Traveler
Posted on 2/23/25 at 8:15 pm to Traveler
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prosecutor went to great lengths to explain what is considered self defense with regards to an act of violence. It cleared up any misconceptions and confusion some of my fellow jurors might have had beforehand and made deliberation process go a lot smoother to agree on a verdict.
Can you elaborate?
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Posted on 2/23/25 at 8:31 pm to TackySweater
Condensed version is once the aggressor steps back and surrenders with no further intent to cause harm, the threat to the victim is over. Self defense could still be claimed by the victim.
If the victim decides he wants to get some payback and now advances to the aggressor with intent to harm, the tables can be turned where the victim could now be considered the aggressor and the claim of self defense is no longer valid. All in a split second. Lawyers here can add to this.
If the victim decides he wants to get some payback and now advances to the aggressor with intent to harm, the tables can be turned where the victim could now be considered the aggressor and the claim of self defense is no longer valid. All in a split second. Lawyers here can add to this.
This post was edited on 2/24/25 at 8:15 am
Posted on 2/23/25 at 10:08 pm to Proximo
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Gotta love OT wannabelawyer advice
The DA in COLORADO never even brought charges. Sounds like the OT has some pretty knowledge posters
Posted on 2/23/25 at 10:22 pm to Proximo
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Gotta love OT wannabelawyer advice
I'm rather impressed how you're able to be on the wrong side of...well...everything in all of your posts.
Have you tried not being a fricking retard?
Posted on 2/23/25 at 10:28 pm to dyslexic
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In the words of Mystikal, " Not even Bruce Lee, could whoop a bullet arse."
His son definitely couldn't.
Posted on 2/23/25 at 10:30 pm to lsufan1971
It went from self defense to a murder charge in a matter of seconds. Guilty.
Posted on 2/23/25 at 10:39 pm to LSU Grad Alabama Fan
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It went from self defense to a murder charge in a matter of seconds. Guilty.
Did you just decide to not bother to read the whole thread before you pontificated and posted your dead-wrong opinion?
The shooter was taken into custody, interviewed by Police, then the DA declined to charge the shooter. Obviously, the DA disagrees with your conclusion that it was Murder.
Posted on 2/23/25 at 10:41 pm to Champagne
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Did you just decide to not bother to read the whole thread before you pontificated and posted your dead-wrong opinion?
Why would I read a bunch of pages?
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The shooter was taken into custody, interviewed by Police, then the DA declined to charge the shooter. Obviously, the DA disagrees with your conclusion that it was Murder.
DAs do stupid shite all the time.
Posted on 2/24/25 at 12:10 am to lsufan1971
I say that’s fair game. Not guilty.
Posted on 2/24/25 at 9:07 am to LSU Grad Alabama Fan
Doubling down, I see.
Posted on 2/25/25 at 12:20 am to ike221
quote:The big guy didn't start running until the little guy started unloading on him.
Little guy shot big dude in big guys back?
While big guy running away? Is this stand your ground?
Are you always a dumbass?
Posted on 2/25/25 at 3:14 am to LNCHBOX
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You're an idiot
He's not the only one. You'd think some here have never heard of the 2A, or self defense.
Posted on 2/25/25 at 3:36 am to LSU Grad Alabama Fan
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Why would I read a bunch of pages?
perfect representation of the laziness and flat out ignorance of this board.
Posted on 2/25/25 at 6:44 am to LSU Grad Alabama Fan
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Why would I read a bunch of pages?
Embarrassing.
Posted on 2/25/25 at 7:18 am to lsufan1971
Jesus I thought the big dude was barking for a few seconds....I need more coffee.
Posted on 2/25/25 at 7:31 am to lsufan1971
If you shoot; make it worth it. None of this, "he was no longer a threat" nonsense. He's only no longer a threat when he stops moving.
Posted on 2/25/25 at 7:35 am to Traveler
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Condensed version is once the aggressor steps back and surrenders with no further intent to cause harm, the threat to the victim is over. Self defense could still be claimed by the victim.
If the victim decides he wants to get some payback and now advances to the aggressor with intent to harm, the tables can be turned where the victim could now be considered the aggressor and the claim of self defense is no longer valid. All in a split second. Lawyers here can add to this.
Yeah, this one is a bit tough to call since its all one act and over in a few seconds.
In something like the Byron Smith case where the guy neutralized the teens breaking into his house and taunted them after they were already completely neutralized and then execution style took them out. You aren't going to get a break from that like the case above. The case above could go either way depending on jury and prosecutors. Byron Smith screwed up recording his dumba** doing what he did, which was well passed threat neutralized.
Posted on 2/25/25 at 7:45 am to Ricardo
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If you shoot; make it worth it. None of this, "he was no longer a threat" nonsense. He's only no longer a threat when he stops moving.
That's what bothers me about the "it went from self defense to murder" arguments.
How can you say that if he stopped shooting that the aggressive big dude wouldn't have come back and continued the fight? You can't say that. And the "well you can't say that because it's just a what-if" argument doesn't hold water with me because literally three seconds before he was killed he was attacking someone and going for their gun. I know it's not as simple as it is to me, but IMO if you attack someone and go for their gun, your intention is VERY clear, and anything that comes your way once you've crossed that line should be fair game. You raised the stakes to that level, so I don't care if you realized it was a bad idea and decided to try to run away...too bad.
Posted on 2/25/25 at 7:53 am to CocomoLSU
Yeah, pretty much all of what you wrote. The bottom line is that a lot of people (thankfully) have never been in a truly violent situation. It's easy to pontificate from the comfort of the sidelines, but it's extremely nonsensical.
Yep. Fight or Flight mode kicked in and big boy went flop.
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It was over entirely too fast to make any kind of "it went from self defense to murder" argument, which is why the DA didn't even bring charges in this case.
Yep. Fight or Flight mode kicked in and big boy went flop.
This post was edited on 2/25/25 at 7:57 am
Posted on 2/25/25 at 7:55 am to CocomoLSU
It was over entirely too fast to make any kind of "it went from self defense to murder" argument, which is why the DA didn't even bring charges in this case.
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