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re: Today marks the 160th anniversary of the Black Day of the Confederate Army...

Posted on 4/6/25 at 11:04 am to
Posted by ATrillionaire
Houston
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 4/6/25 at 11:04 am to
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why do you think there are rafts of people all over the Caribbean

Consequence of the slave trade.

Still not understanding what that has to do with the potential state of Africans who would migrate and settle in the USA in a world where the slave trade never happened.
Posted by olgoi khorkhoi
priapism survivor
Member since May 2011
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Posted on 4/6/25 at 11:05 am to
I don't support the overarching cause of the South, but man, I have some empathy for those absolute baws that marched barefoot in the snow and repeatedly defeated a bigger and better supplied army. I don't think most of those guys gave a shite about slavery or race, but fought because there was an opposing force that was pressing them.

I feel the same way about the union soldiers, but they didn't face the same level of hardship as the South just getting from point A to B, not to mention the difference in weapons.
Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
82735 posts
Posted on 4/6/25 at 11:08 am to
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Consequence of the slave trade.

Still not understanding what that has to do with the potential state of Africans who would migrate and settle in the USA in a world where the slave trade never happened.


not sure what your point is but where do you think the blacks that are strewn from all of the Caribbean islands to the US came from? that was the slave trade route

conditions are still better here for blacks than anywhere in Africa or the islands
Posted by ATrillionaire
Houston
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 4/6/25 at 11:09 am to
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not sure what your point is but where do you think the blacks that are strewn from all of the Caribbean islands to the US came from? that was the slave trade route

conditions are still better here for blacks than anywhere in Africa or the islands

I think we both don't understand each other's point. No biggie, though. Happy Sunday.
Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
82735 posts
Posted on 4/6/25 at 11:11 am to
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I think we both don't understand each other's point. No biggie, though. Happy Sunday.


same, too early to be this deep in serious thought

have a good one
Posted by TygerLyfe
Member since May 2023
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Posted on 4/6/25 at 12:31 pm to
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Joseph Kershaw.


I carry a Kershaw
Posted by SpotCheckBilly
Member since May 2020
7498 posts
Posted on 4/6/25 at 4:12 pm to
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The Battle of Sailor's Creek.

After the fall of both Petersburg (April 2) and Richmond (April 3), Robert E. Lee and the Confederate Army of Northern Virginia began to retreat westward toward the hamlet of Amelia Court House. The goal of this retreat was to reach Amelia Court House, resupply the army, and then link up with General Joseph E. Johnston's army in North Carolina to continue the struggle. However, logistical delays and aggressive Union pursuit by General Ulysses S. Grant’s forces, particularly under Generals Philip Sheridan and Andrew Humphreys, allowed the Army of the Potomac to close the gap and strike hard at Lee’s straggling columns...


Thanks for posting this video and for other, similar posts. I have been to Sailor's Creek and if you are interested in Civil War history and are in the area, it's worth seeing. I visited it early on a weekday morning and spoke with a knowledgeable Ranger who provided a lot of information, especially after I told him my wife's great-grandfather had fought there.

He was guarding the supply wagons until the Union soldiers captured some of them and made them retreat to Appomattox Court House.

It's interesting to hear how George Custer invited some of the captured Confederate officers to share his tent and dine with him. It's always amazed me how this country came back together after this horrific war -- and it dismays me that after all this time, some folks want to argue it all over again.
Posted by Ancient Astronaut
Member since May 2015
36219 posts
Posted on 4/6/25 at 4:28 pm to
The War of Northern Aggression was no joke
This post was edited on 4/6/25 at 4:29 pm
Posted by icecreamsnowball
Member since Mar 2025
157 posts
Posted on 4/6/25 at 4:36 pm to
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The poorest blacks here generally live better than the richest there


I agree with you overall, but this is not true at all.
Posted by AmosMosesAndTwins
Lake Charles
Member since Apr 2010
18336 posts
Posted on 4/7/25 at 1:27 pm to
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Today marks the 160th anniversary of the Black Day of the Confederate Army...


Can’t capitalize black unless you talkin bout Tyrone.
Posted by Hewonbigly
Member since Aug 2021
3 posts
Posted on 4/7/25 at 3:02 pm to
Due to shortage of ammo, weaponry, etc, this battle devolved to mass-scale desperate hand-to-hand fighting. Had an ancestor captured.
Posted by Stinger_1066
On a golf course
Member since Jul 2021
2899 posts
Posted on 4/7/25 at 3:10 pm to
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I don't think most of those guys gave a shite about slavery or race, but fought because there was an opposing force that was pressing them.


You are incorrect.

Beginning in 1862, all white males living in the Confederacy between the ages of 18 and 35 were subject to conscription. They either had to go fight, or be punished, possibly by execution. That was their motivation.

If you were wealthy enough, you could hire someone to take your place.

Posted by hansenthered1
Dixie
Member since Nov 2023
526 posts
Posted on 4/7/25 at 6:28 pm to
The fact that MS largest expenditure the year the war ended was artificial legs, and these were not nice robot legs they were basically wooden peg legs, always floored me.

Another stat that hit me was that half of the 122000 Alabamians who served were either seriously wounded or killed. Alabama had a very high rate of men killed, close to 30% who served.

CSA military deaths by state:



Posted by lepdagod
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2015
4286 posts
Posted on 4/7/25 at 6:46 pm to
The confederate army proved to be a bunch of bumbling idiots… had every logistical advantage geography wise… we’re consider the outdoorsman type fighting against bankers and haberdashers… lost every meaningful battle, didn’t understand how to form supply lines, couldn’t fed their army after the first month… almost every general graduated at the bottom half of their class from West Point (sans Lee who himself isn’t the brightest)…
This post was edited on 4/7/25 at 6:50 pm
Posted by UnclePat76
McHenry County Illinois
Member since Sep 2004
3309 posts
Posted on 4/7/25 at 7:00 pm to
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had every logistical advantage geography wise… we’re consider the outdoorsman type fighting against bankers and haberdashers… lost every meaningful battle, didn’t understand how to form supply lines, couldn’t fed their army after the first month…
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had every logistical advantage geography wise… we’re consider the outdoorsman type fighting against bankers and haberdashers… lost every meaningful battle, didn’t understand how to form supply lines, couldn’t fed their army after the first month…


Great points. I’ll add the confederacy was too big of an area to defend with a much smaller population. Richmond wasn’t the best location to have a capital as well. A lions share of the best trained troops had to be sent to the Old Dominion. Hence why New Orleans fell so early in the war. Good portion of the troops were gone.

Posted by SoFla Tideroller
South Florida
Member since Apr 2010
35423 posts
Posted on 4/7/25 at 7:03 pm to
No standard railroad gauge didn't help the supply situation, either.
Posted by GetCocky11
Calgary, AB
Member since Oct 2012
53172 posts
Posted on 4/7/25 at 7:11 pm to
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him. It's always amazed me how this country came back together after this horrific war -


Just ignore that whole Reconstruction thing
Posted by Lou Loomis
A pond. Ponds good for you.
Member since Mar 2025
139 posts
Posted on 4/7/25 at 7:46 pm to
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What a terrible bargain that turned out to be.


The absolute worst. Lincoln said it would be too expensive to send them back. Nothing compared to what it’s costing us now.
Posted by AbuTheMonkey
Chicago, IL
Member since May 2014
8403 posts
Posted on 4/7/25 at 8:21 pm to
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The fact that MS largest expenditure the year the war ended was artificial legs, and these were not nice robot legs they were basically wooden peg legs, always floored me. Another stat that hit me was that half of the 122000 Alabamians who served were either seriously wounded or killed. Alabama had a very high rate of men killed, close to 30% who served. CSA military deaths by state:


That’s an interesting graph. Looking at it on a deeper level, it’s really a function of two things:
1. Population density at the time
2. How early and thoroughly in the war the Southern state was occupied

Virginia was the most populated, and while much of the Eastern theater fighting took place there, almost all of it until mid-1864 took place between the Potomac and Rapidan or in the very rural Shenandoah; the major population centers were largely untouched until late. North Carolina was also one of the most populous Southern states and didn’t experience much contact with Union armies absent some coastal skirmishes until very late - same can mostly be said for South Carolina. Thus, large draft classes and high casualties.

Florida and to a lesser extent Texas just weren’t that highly populated at the time. Much of Louisiana - which was well-populated - was out of the game pretty early, so large swaths of the male population missed out on the draft years from 1862 onward. Tennessee was also embattled early and all over the state; similarly, they didn’t have as much of their fighting age population drafted (and probably something like a third to forty percent of the state was pro-Union, anyway).

Outside of the Eastern seaboard, Alabama was largely untouched until very late in the war, as was much of Georgia until after Missionary Ridge. Alabama units in particular seemed to consistently find themselves at the tip of the spear on a number of occasions in key battles (like Little Round Top, Shiloh, pretty much every major battle in the Chattanooga to Atlanta sequence, Murfreesboro, etc).
This post was edited on 4/7/25 at 8:24 pm
Posted by TG
Metairie
Member since Sep 2004
3124 posts
Posted on 4/7/25 at 9:18 pm to
You have romanticized the Northern aggressors and demonized the Southerners. The rich North won and oppressed the South to a point that it still hasn't fully recovered.
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