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re: Today is the 80th anniversary of Easy Company's attack into the city of Foy, Belgium...

Posted on 1/13/25 at 8:59 pm to
Posted by grizzlylongcut
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Posted on 1/13/25 at 8:59 pm to
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Sobel was a dick and incompetent combat officer but he was a good army officer.


Sobel got those men ready for war.

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Dike wasn’t as weak as they made him seem.


I believe he was suffering from shell-shock on top of being wounded. He was a decorated combat infantry officer by the time he got to Easy.

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Poor Blythe never died either


Correct

Also, Nixon was a complete shitbird. A drunken shitbird.
Posted by R11
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Posted on 1/13/25 at 9:03 pm to
Best series ever made

Band brothers
Posted by jorconalx
alexandria
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Posted on 1/13/25 at 9:08 pm to
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Also, Nixon was a complete shitbird. A drunken shitbird.


This
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Posted on 1/13/25 at 9:12 pm to
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Best series ever made



It is excellent but as spelled out, they did a few guys dirty on their portrayal. I still watch it once a year or so.

I cant believe those guys survived that winter. They had to have all been hard as woodpecker lips.
This post was edited on 1/13/25 at 9:14 pm
Posted by TheJunction
Mississippi
Member since Oct 2014
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Posted on 1/13/25 at 9:52 pm to
Without question my favorite movie series of all time. Can’t get enough of it. Wife and I went to Normandy a few years back and retraced there steps in the area - chills man. Incredible group of men, we’re so lucky to have had them.
Posted by Deplorableinohio
Member since Dec 2018
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Posted on 1/13/25 at 9:53 pm to
Hard times make strong men.
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Posted on 1/13/25 at 10:00 pm to
The opening of the first episode where the guy is talking about how he got into easy company.

They offered more money to volunteer for paratrooper. I think it was $50 a month instead of $25.

Its incredible what mindset those men had.
Posted by METAL
Member since Nov 2020
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Posted on 1/13/25 at 11:07 pm to
Just watched the episode last night. Hows that for timing?
Posted by TutHillTiger
Mississippi Alabama
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Posted on 1/13/25 at 11:09 pm to
Band of Brothers was so damn good
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
Member since May 2012
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Posted on 1/13/25 at 11:16 pm to
I thought Webster sort of got a raw deal
Posted by jcaz
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Posted on 1/14/25 at 5:49 am to
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Also, Nixon was a complete shitbird. A drunken shitbird.

Yeah they apparently got that right lol
Posted by LSUDonMCO
Orlando
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Posted on 1/14/25 at 7:08 am to
AMERICA!! frick YEAH!!
Posted by GetCocky11
Calgary, AB
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 1/14/25 at 7:25 am to
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BoB also got Blythe (the disoriented paratrooper) incorrect. It had him dying in 1948. He actually lived until 1968.



That one still amazes me. How do you mess up such an easily verifiable piece of information?
Posted by RoyalAir
Detroit
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 1/14/25 at 7:30 am to
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A very badass generation of men. Last of their kind.


The very best of the Western world died in this conflict, and both Europe and North America are significantly worse off for having lost what they did.

Brave heroes on both sides. Such a senseless tragedy.
Posted by cubsfan5150
NWA
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 1/14/25 at 7:37 am to
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Obviously, the DVs are from fans of the miniseries. Ambrose was, in actuality, a lazy historian who played fast and loose with the facts and crediting others' work. The Dyke and Blythe accounts by Ambrose are two of the more prominent examples of him fudging easily verifiable facts.


Wide brush there... was he at times? Absolutely, and at other times, he could be very accurate.

Undaunted Courage is probably my favorite book of all time and while not everything is correct, it's a well put together tale.
Posted by LSUDonMCO
Orlando
Member since Dec 2003
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Posted on 1/14/25 at 7:42 am to
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How do you mess up such an easily verifiable piece of information?


Most of Ambrose's information was first person accounts. Blythe was transferred out of Easy due to his injuries. They lost touch with him after the war and someone told Ambrose that they thought he died.

Ambrose was criticized for his over reliance on first person accounts over other research. BoB is largely based on WInter's accounts, which is why Nixon comes off way better than he probably should have.
Posted by SoFla Tideroller
South Florida
Member since Apr 2010
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Posted on 1/14/25 at 7:56 am to
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Wide brush there... was he at times? Absolutely, and at other times, he could be very accurate.


That's like saying Jameis is a very accurate QB - at times. Sure, he threw 4 INTs. On the other 30 throws he was wonderful.



You're also overlooking his propensity to plagiarize...
This post was edited on 1/14/25 at 10:33 am
Posted by Dave Worth
Metairie
Member since Dec 2003
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Posted on 1/14/25 at 10:28 am to
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They lost touch with him after the war and someone told Ambrose that they thought he died


I want to say 2 Easy Co soldiers said they went to his funeral. Maybe Babe and someone else? Another reason why eye witness testimony is unreliable. Blythe went on to fight in Korea where he died from a perforated ulcer. He was also awared Bronze and Silver Stars in Korea for his service.

Ambrose has quite the reputation for being a lazy researcher. Dike is the one that pisses me off. Today is the first time I heard the theory about PTSD and that could be true. What I do know is that he wasn't a coward and was seriously injured. He was a decorated officer who went on to serve in Korea.
Posted by GetCocky11
Calgary, AB
Member since Oct 2012
53509 posts
Posted on 1/14/25 at 10:31 am to
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Another reason why eye witness testimony is unreliable.


For real. Blithe was on active duty all the way until his death in Germany in 1967. Wiki says he had just been attending a commemoration of the Battle of the Bulge.

I wonder how much the fire in the 1970s that wiped out all those service records impacts this kind of research.
This post was edited on 1/14/25 at 10:35 am
Posted by EvrybodysAllAmerican
Member since Apr 2013
12641 posts
Posted on 1/14/25 at 10:54 am to
I think BoB would take the experiences of several different soldiers and combine them into a single character for the sake of the story and to limit it to the main characters. If you went into it thinking its 100% accurate you might have been disappointed. The first time i watched it, i thought it was all fictional, then as i read up on it, realizing it was about 95% accurate, i gained a whole other level of appreciation for the movie and the guys portrayed in it. I was actually impressed with how much they stuck to the historical accounts instead of taking creative liberties like most movies. And then if you dig into the making of the movie, they really did try to stick to accuracy as best they could. Obviously some mistakes were made but i dont think there was a ton of embellishing the stories- Those guys were studs. So i guess it depends on how you look at it.

Buck Compton is another one who disagreed with his portrayal getting ptsd and getting pulled from the line. He wrote about it in his book. But i think most of the soldiers were such humble and grateful guys that they didnt have much issue with the movies.

Still the best movies of all time imo.
This post was edited on 1/14/25 at 11:00 am
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