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re: To what extent would LSU be more prestigious if it were in a safer location?
Posted on 4/17/24 at 12:30 pm to WaterLink
Posted on 4/17/24 at 12:30 pm to WaterLink
No, more like those schools offer far more scholarships and incentives than LSU. Same as Alabama and other schools poaching our best. Because of TOPS, LSU barely offers anything to LA kids. I know several kids who were offered great packages from all the other State schools. Most go to LSU because it's close to home and it's LSU.
My daughter was one, she got a great offer from Tech and several Out of State Schools. As a National Merit Scholar and 34 ACT score, LSU only offered TOPS. She went to LSU because it was close to home and it was Me and my Wife's Alma Mater. She graduated in ME and will to this day tell you she hated the way LSU treated her and regrets not going to Tech.
My daughter was one, she got a great offer from Tech and several Out of State Schools. As a National Merit Scholar and 34 ACT score, LSU only offered TOPS. She went to LSU because it was close to home and it was Me and my Wife's Alma Mater. She graduated in ME and will to this day tell you she hated the way LSU treated her and regrets not going to Tech.
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Posted on 4/17/24 at 12:38 pm to Limitlesstigers
Geography isn’t the problem.
The bigger problems are administrative choices / priorities IMHO.
The bigger problems are administrative choices / priorities IMHO.
Posted on 4/17/24 at 12:46 pm to tiger94gop
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TOPS
The problem with TOPS is the standards are too low. Minimum should be a 3.0 GPA and 25 ACT with higher levels at like 30 and then 34.
Tax dollars shouldn’t be used to subsidize average students, which is what we have now.
Posted on 4/17/24 at 12:50 pm to WalkonQB
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I understand the demographics are different but you’re correct, there is no logical explanation for LSU not simply buying the ghetto next to it. Turn it into student housing and keep it moving and grooving.
Most of the ghetto around LSU was formerly student housing. If you want to bitch; bitch about Baton Rouge allowing sprawl around the University with new developments that turn to shite quickly and HUD /Section 8. If code enforcement was used correctly. All those rat holes could be closed and bought at auction by developers or investment districts. This is a political problem and LSU is knee deep in it. They wouldn't want some over zealous legislator trying to cut more of their budget.
Posted on 4/17/24 at 12:53 pm to tiger94gop
LSU built a lot of student housing on campus. They do this every 20-30 years in waves.
That almost makes a lot of off campus housing obsolete when they do it. And that housing usually either gets demolished or goes section 8.
That almost makes a lot of off campus housing obsolete when they do it. And that housing usually either gets demolished or goes section 8.
Posted on 4/17/24 at 12:54 pm to tiger94gop
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As a National Merit Scholar and 34 ACT score, LSU only offered TOPS.
If she was out of state, LSU would have given her a sweet deal. That’s just how they are.
They don’t push too hard for the La students. They let TOPS do the work for them.
Posted on 4/17/24 at 1:11 pm to tiger94gop
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If you want to bitch; bitch about Baton Rouge allowing sprawl around the University with new developments that turn to shite quickly and HUD /Section 8.
Some kind of special district (I don't know the right term) should be created to really make development of ghettos hard around the university.
People are insane if they think BR politics and crime is not driving people out. It absolutely is. I used to count 75% of kids I knew as going to LSU. Now It is flipped and most are going to a mix of Tech, Ole Miss and State.
Posted on 4/17/24 at 1:36 pm to JasonDBlaha
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Johns Hopkins, Tulane and Penn U are all surrounded by slums
Tulane is surrounded by the 3 most expensive zip codes in the state
This post was edited on 4/17/24 at 1:37 pm
Posted on 4/17/24 at 1:40 pm to goofball
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If she was out of state, LSU would have given her a sweet deal. That’s just how they are.
They don’t push too hard for the La students. They let TOPS do the work for them.
This has been a trend at LSU for 20 years. No idea why.
Good (not great) students in my class would get free room and board, coverage for tuition and fees, etc. LSU didn't seem to care; instead focusing on incentives and scholarships for out of state students.
LSU's standards were slightly higher than those for TOPS, so every "in state" student at LSU qualifies for TOPS. That wasn't the case with ULL although that may have changed over the years.
LSU definitely still attracted the bulk of the brighter students out of my high school class, but the distance from La Tech probably had something to do with that too. ULL got a lot of the kids that couldn't quite get into LSU + a couple of very competitive students that got offered a very generous scholarship from ULL to supplement their TOPS (that's the student that LSU ignored).
Overall, I think Louisiana has too many universities for the population. I'm actually quite surprised that LSU's enrollment is approaching 40,000 students now. I suspect Tech and LSU are more aggressive in pulling students from out of state that might otherwise attend Arkansas, Texas A&M, University of Texas, Ole Miss, Alabama, Tennessee, etc to help sustain themselves, knowing that TOPS is doing the heavy lifting when it comes to attracting the "in state" students. ULL seems to be trying hard to pick away at least some of the competitive local students that might otherwise go to LSU or Tech.
This post was edited on 4/17/24 at 1:45 pm
Posted on 4/17/24 at 1:48 pm to tiger94gop
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My daughter was one, she got a great offer from Tech and several Out of State Schools. As a National Merit Scholar and 34 ACT score, LSU only offered TOPS. She went to LSU because it was close to home and it was Me and my Wife's Alma Mater. She graduated in ME and will to this day tell you she hated the way LSU treated her and regrets not going to Tech.
Yep, that's how things are with LSU. They are letting TOPS handle the scholarship/incentive packages for the "in state" students.
Some other interesting trends that might be related......
Seeing as how enrollment is down nationally but up at most "flagship" state universities (and even some public second-tier schools like UL-Lafayette, U of Memphis, U of Houston, etc.) , I wouldn't be surprised if the bigger public university systems were lowering their standards where they can get away with it - especially those that don't have competitive degree programs or headline-grabbing athletics that keep their brand in the spotlight. They are all growing while second tier state schools and smaller private colleges are actually declining. Some of those "fall back" private colleges in the northeast and mid west are actually closing down.
Posted on 4/17/24 at 2:02 pm to GetCocky11
will be interesting to see what the new governor does with the board
Posted on 4/18/24 at 2:46 pm to TigerBait2008
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Fify
Another way to shite on people.
He lives to troll and shite on people.
Posted on 4/18/24 at 2:59 pm to Hellp
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neighborhoods losing value
Which neighborhoods that weren’t already garbage 30 years ago are losing value? Most people’s answers will be the ones that flooded dramatically in 2016. That is what rocked the value, not crime. If you look at neighborhoods in BR that are south of Florida and did not flood in ‘16, the consistent trend is an increase in property value. Even as the demographics and crime trends in the city have changed. Look at New Orleans. 25 years ago we all should’ve been buying $400k mansions Uptown. Can’t even touch most of em now for less than $1.5mil
This post was edited on 4/18/24 at 3:07 pm
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