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re: Titanic tourist submarine goes missing
Posted on 6/24/23 at 11:32 am to LSU316
Posted on 6/24/23 at 11:32 am to LSU316
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diving down 2 miles on these rickety vans masquerading as submarines is the latter.
I get it. But it had made the previous dives to the Titanic safely and had 50 test dives under the belt.
I imagine there was a waiting list of people who wanted to go.
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Posted on 6/24/23 at 11:37 am to RogerTheShrubber
I’m sure it’s been mentioned before but the pressure cycles take a toll, they’re definitely in an experimental vehicle and I think it’s highly unlikely that any periodic fatigue inspections were performed
Posted on 6/24/23 at 11:43 am to 777Tiger
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e but the pressure cycles take a toll
Yep, they pushed it one dive too far. I just don't see it any different than any of the risky stuff people do, this one just required faith in the equipment.
I personally would not have trusted it, but I know folks who would be all over it.
Posted on 6/24/23 at 11:45 am to RogerTheShrubber
agree, risk is part of the adrenaline junky makeup
Posted on 6/24/23 at 11:52 am to 777Tiger
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part of the adrenaline junky makeup
Well, I guess it is okay to be a adrenaline junky, but not when other lives are at stake.
That poor kid. So sad.
Posted on 6/24/23 at 11:54 am to 308
definitely, shouldn’t have brought the kid along unless it was him that was begging to do it
Posted on 6/24/23 at 11:58 am to RogerTheShrubber
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Some people have a drive for high adventure, they're better than we are. Explorers, adventurers..
Some people pound cocaine and heroine without fear. It makes them feel good. It eventually kills them. They're certainly risk taker. "Better than we are?" I'll take that argument from a firefigher, a good parent or a committed missionary. A rich person looking for party cred? Hardly.
Posted on 6/24/23 at 12:01 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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I personally would not have trusted it, but I know folks who would be all over it.
I think this is the entire point of them being ridiculed. Now imagine it’s your wife who’s all over it (huhuhu) and she takes your kids or even worse, your dog. And they implode. Is it still just- you know, she just pushed it one too far but I gotta love that adventurer spirit and going down doing what she loved. Or is she trending more towards the full idiot side of things?
Posted on 6/24/23 at 12:03 pm to rocksteady
With all the aforementioned means of doing so with significantly less risk.
Posted on 6/24/23 at 12:17 pm to YNWA
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Here is a well done documentary from the BBC, from a few months ago(?), about Oceans Gate and Titan.
Thanks YNWA it was a great watch.
Posted on 6/24/23 at 12:34 pm to rocksteady
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. Or is she trending more towards the full idiot side of things?
All according to your perspective.
Evidently playground equipment for children that we used to play on is now "idiotic" so it depends on your taste for risk. Experimental homemade airplanes are "idiotic" to a lot of folks, but its a very popular hobby.
This post was edited on 6/24/23 at 12:37 pm
Posted on 6/24/23 at 4:30 pm to RogerTheShrubber
The information about this thing being an implosion waiting to happen was already out there and readily available. The billionaire dude could have literally bought himself a real spiffy one. You keep trying to frame this —particular— event with risk takers, thrill seekers, explorers, guys building airplanes in their garage - those things are respectable. This isn’t that, bra. You think the other explorer passenger guy had been going on his adventures his entire life with a backpack full of gear labeled as death trap waiting to happen? Swimming around the ocean breathing out of a giant paper straw.
There is zero other conclusion to draw other than it was really fricking dumb. Fix your brain. Unless you’re saying the thrill they sought was to see the titanic while also doing so in a known Russian roulette machine.
Waltzing into a tard tube described by every human to be considered an expert on the subject of gallivanting around the ocean floor as having concerns about “catastrophic failure” doesn’t make you a brave explorer. It’s time to grow up Peter pan. Your only shred of evidence here is “it did it 6 times!” To which there are years of people saying “it’s going to implode one of these times :)”
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There is zero other conclusion to draw other than it was really fricking dumb. Fix your brain. Unless you’re saying the thrill they sought was to see the titanic while also doing so in a known Russian roulette machine.
Waltzing into a tard tube described by every human to be considered an expert on the subject of gallivanting around the ocean floor as having concerns about “catastrophic failure” doesn’t make you a brave explorer. It’s time to grow up Peter pan. Your only shred of evidence here is “it did it 6 times!” To which there are years of people saying “it’s going to implode one of these times :)”
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Posted on 6/24/23 at 4:32 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Evidently playground equipment for children that we used to play on is now "idiotic" so it depends on your taste for risk. Experimental homemade airplanes are "idiotic" to a lot of folks, but its a very popular hobby.
There's no possible way you're trying to compare either of these things to that POS sub.
Posted on 6/24/23 at 4:34 pm to pankReb
He’s dug in real deep on his fully incorrect goober position.
Posted on 6/24/23 at 4:35 pm to 777Tiger
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the pressure cycles take a toll
The thing that stood out to me in one of the videos was the glue. The ring was glued to the carbon fiber. If the pressure from the water was able to distort the carbon fiber to the point that it separated from the titanium ring there’s your implosion.
This post was edited on 6/24/23 at 4:35 pm
Posted on 6/24/23 at 4:35 pm to pankReb
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There's no possible way you're trying to compare either of these things to that POS sub
I'm not, the fear mongers are whom I am comparing. But I'm a guy who thinks they should bring back duels.
This post was edited on 6/24/23 at 4:36 pm
Posted on 6/24/23 at 5:40 pm to 308
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A haunting image of OceanGate CEO Stockton Rush peering out of the Titan submersible that would ultimately implode, instantly killing its maker, has resurfaced.
Rush appears grim as he gazes out of the Titan's lone porthole during a 2018 testing trip in the Bahamas.
The late pilot's face is surrounded by darkness inside the submersible, chillingly reminiscent of what the five-person crew may have experienced Sunday in the moments before the Titan's infrastructure failed.
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Posted on 6/24/23 at 5:43 pm to John88
That dude had one hell of an ego.
Posted on 6/24/23 at 5:54 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Evidently playground equipment for children that we used to play on is now "idiotic
Millennials and younger just didn’t have the chest that Gen X had.
Posted on 6/24/23 at 6:10 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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But it had made the previous dives to the Titanic safely and had 50 test dives under the belt.
This is the same complacency that got those people killed... "we've done it before with no problems"
That might work out for you if you actually had protocols in place to ensure the safety and reliability of the vessel. This guy is on record saying that safety doesn't matter to him. This was inevitable bc of his attitude paired with a half-assed "submarine".
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