re: Titanic tourist submarine goes missing

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Harding descended to Challenger Deep in 2021 on the Limiting Factor

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so baffled by this... how do people like Nargeolet and Harding get in a vessel like the Titan? the Frenchman served in the Navy for 25 years and had made over 30 dives to the Titanic. Harding worked in a different field that is heavily regulated while taking trips to the Challenger Deep as a hobby. Both of these guys were familiar with safety requirements and protocol. Dawood was reportedly a huge Titanic fan and surely knew about voyages to the wreckage. Regardless, people in these respective positions aren't where they are because of decisions like this.

also, how long should it take for a submariner to know they're descending too fast? was the first part of the dive fine before the acceleration occurred or can signs of unplanned descent be detected at a safer depth? would a 5 man crew have anything to do with this? seems like Rush just wanted as many paying customers as he could get on this trip.

Maybe this should be a form of Capital punishment..

It's more terrifying than lethal injection, yet probably more humaine. But it gives the condemned a long time on the way down to remember why they were there, as it gets darker and darker.

It's a guaranteed kill, and feels more of a possible crime deterrent than the chair, gas chamber or etc.

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And we absolutely kept track of the number of dives. I was on a boat that hit 1,000 dives (and surfaces... thankfully).

We use a specific metal to construct the pressure vessel (HY-80/HY-100) and there are tons of regulations and procedures to ensure we keep water out of "the people tank".

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And this same if not MORE rigorous testing is applied to EVERY pressurized vessel of notable size at any plant/refinery/mill in the United States.

These expensive tests and certifications are closely monitored and audited by several agencies.

That dude running OceanGate didn't have time for that nonsense.

Can't make this shite up.

"at some point, safety is just pure waste." - Stockton Rush

Here is a well done documentary from the BBC, from a few months ago(?), about Oceans Gate and Titan. It made successful dives to the Titanic before. They were doing research as well. It wasn't just Billionaires going to the Titanic.
Each dive had issues it seems.

Take Me to the Titanic

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I think these sub passengers are probably getting more ridicule than they deserve across social media

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I don't

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They got reckless and fricked up and it cost them their lives.

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Same reason we ridicule many absurd deaths.

Saw this in a submariner group and it's an excellent explanation of the "frick those retards" mentality...

"Ok, a lot of people seem bothered by some of us with dark, macabre humor regarding the loss of a billionaire s toy at 10,000 feet while engaging in a dark, macabre entertainment of viewing the site of another wreck caused by Hubris.

Hubris, meet Nemesis .

So here's a point of view. We trained hard and constantly to operate safely in a lethally dangerous environment. We did it for serious reasons other than being a bored rich guy. After multiple disasters costing the lives of our brothers, time and money and skull sweat went into making our boats safer. Even so, we worked in that dangerous place where death was one mistake away. We dealt with it with a dark, twisted humor.

Along comes Richie Rich, and spits on us, scoffs at the safety which was second nature to us, brags about how he disregarded safety and broke the rules we mere mortal engineers found necessary.

Nature, red of claw and beak, enforced the rules of physics, and brought the inevitable end to such damn foolishness as always.

No sailor ever takes pleasure in a death at sea. No Submariner takes pleasure in a death beneath the waves which could have taken us at any moment.

But if you expect Submariners not to engage in dark humor when Nemesis comes for Hubris, and such stupidity takes its inevitable toll, I submit you know nothing about Submariners.

And maybe, just maybe, the next guy who wants to build a toy Submersible will not break the rules, and live."

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Did it go to the Titanic a dozen times or not?

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What difference does that make?

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The carbon fiber hull got weaker and weaker with each dive and they were clearly not monitoring the hull integrity properly after each dive, so eventually this thing was going to go implode.

I’ve had this thought as well. But then just attach a weight to their ankle and throw them in.

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Bunch of twits who are afraid to step out of their house without a mask criticizing people who are risk takers

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What a fricking retarded statement