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re: Titanic tourist submarine goes missing

Posted on 6/21/23 at 10:54 pm to
Posted by LSU4lyfe
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2003
7940 posts
Posted on 6/21/23 at 10:54 pm to
quote:

told the BBC


Barry is a journalist
Posted by LPLGTiger
Member since May 2013
2377 posts
Posted on 6/21/23 at 11:00 pm to
Tik tok found it

Not sure if it’s been posted yet. I know zero about sharks but the fact that this data has already been deleted is a little fishy.
Posted by BeepNode
Lafayette
Member since Feb 2014
10005 posts
Posted on 6/21/23 at 11:06 pm to
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Really? 49 pages in?



Page 49 is my neighborhood.
Posted by mmcgrath
Indianapolis
Member since Feb 2010
36654 posts
Posted on 6/21/23 at 11:06 pm to
Someone needs to send down some Morse cose:

..-..--- ..---.-.-

[You have 24 hours of oxygen left]
.-..--....--.-.-
[That's for 5 people, 5 days for one guy]
.--..-.-.----...-.-.--..
[Just sayin']
Posted by YNWA
Member since Nov 2015
7074 posts
Posted on 6/21/23 at 11:18 pm to
This was on Reddit.

-I watched a couple of videos on youtube about this sub. Here are some highlights that might interest you:

* There are 7 playstation controllers onboard for redundancy.
* The two different beacon systems they have to communicate stopped at the same time at around 2/3 of the depth they were trying to reach. The beacons are normally not on the same circuit and one is autonomous to send out pings. The odds don't look good because both beacons stopped at the same time which is not supposed to happen even if there is a complete power loss inside the sub.
* There are seven different systems to resurface and one that does not need power or people that are alive to work. The sub IS supposed to resurface by itself at some point. It should have by now. The odds don't look good on this fact alone.
* The protocol is that if any system is showing a failure, it prompts an abort of the trip and a resurfacing. They have not resurfaced so it does not look good.
* The three main problems they can have are: 1-loss of power 2-sub integrity failure 3-entanglement. While an integrity failure combined with an implosion will kill you instantly, the two other failures would need to be combined for the sub not to resurface and lose comms. It seems likely they faced one of these two situations.
* They have to go through different complex systems for their oxygen to last to the theorical limit in time. The last step is using oxygen tanks stored on board. If they lost power, like it seems, their time is reduced by a lot...
* The sub can only be opened from the outside. Even if they resurfaced they can die of a lack of oxygen. Time is then of the essence, they have until tomorrow to be saved or face death no matter what happened.
* They usually are navigating in pitch dark with short messages from the mothership telling them where to go. It's passive navigation. They don't really know where they are at any time and recently the sub once got lost wondering around on the seabed for a while without finding the Titanic because of problems with the trajectory computing.
* It's an unregulated sub using a titanium and carbon fiber structure built with Nasa and the university of Washington.
* To do the trip, you have to sign a long waiver about the vast amount of things that can go wrong and kill you and you accept that you risk your life.
* The sub is also controlled by two touchscreens like the one in a Telsa. No direct systems, switches or panels exist to control or override anything like in a normal craft . This is not a sophisticated vessel but a very simplified one. People reported it is "hacky".
* If they are trapped at their last reported depth, they will surely die no matter what because no vehicle can operate a rescue mission at this depth.

td;lr If they survive it will be nothing short of a miracle.
Posted by Reservoir dawg
Member since Oct 2013
14831 posts
Posted on 6/21/23 at 11:19 pm to
Man this really sucks because I kinda believe they were alive for a minute. When they said search area the size of Connecticut that was really deflating.

It may take them years to find it. If they ever do.
Posted by Rhino5
Atlanta
Member since Nov 2014
30192 posts
Posted on 6/21/23 at 11:22 pm to
Wow
Posted by FairhopeTider
Fairhope, Alabama
Member since May 2012
21855 posts
Posted on 6/21/23 at 11:28 pm to
So how would all of these supposed failsafes fail if they aren’t reliant on the power supply? Why would communications and the resurfacing mechanism both fail?

Entanglement seems likely but how would that explain losing communication at 2/3 of the depth?
Posted by TheArrogantCorndog
Highland Rd
Member since Sep 2009
15335 posts
Posted on 6/21/23 at 11:29 pm to
The legend lives on from the Titanic on down
In the ocean they called The Atlantic
The ocean, it is said, never gives up her dead
No matter if the adventure's romantic
With a crew of 5 men, 1 toilet with them
The submersible started her journey
That shite ship and crew was a bone to be chewed
When the pressure explosion came early


I tried
Posted by SirWinston
PNW
Member since Jul 2014
96291 posts
Posted on 6/21/23 at 11:35 pm to
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There’s nothing, no propaganda, no studies, absolutely nothing that would ever convince me to get into what looks like an enclosed pontoon boat and travel 2.5 miles into the ocean depths. And to think they paid $250,000 for this lunacy??


Same. Imagine being the son of a billionaire and going on that trip with your dad. fricking stupidest thing I've ever heard, it actually makes me angry.
Posted by Aspercel
Member since Jan 2009
114545 posts
Posted on 6/21/23 at 11:38 pm to
You’re no fr33…

good effort though. I’m also glad the shark guy got posted. I’ve missed all his ridiculous shark stuff.
Posted by Sun God
Member since Jul 2009
47052 posts
Posted on 6/21/23 at 11:38 pm to
I’m assuming an extremely violent implosion would knock all that out
Posted by Smeg
Member since Aug 2018
12639 posts
Posted on 6/21/23 at 11:48 pm to
quote:

The two different beacon systems they have to communicate stopped at the same time at around 2/3 of the depth they were trying to reach. The beacons are normally not on the same circuit and one is autonomous to send out pings

I believe the autonomous beacon was on it's own separate battery. The fact that it stopped when contact was lost, pretty much confirms implosion. Carbon fiber hull instantly shattered into a thousand pieces. Maybe one day someone will locate an end cap mixed in the debris field below.
Posted by Wishnitwas1998
where TN, MS, and AL meet
Member since Oct 2010
61798 posts
Posted on 6/21/23 at 11:59 pm to
The way they'd all fail is if it ruptured
Posted by im4LSU
Hattiesburg, MS
Member since Aug 2004
33756 posts
Posted on 6/22/23 at 12:23 am to
quote:

We would have heard that.


"We" did.

Its been posted several times.
Posted by Mr Breeze
The Lunatic Fringe
Member since Dec 2010
6532 posts
Posted on 6/22/23 at 1:13 am to
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Which would make designing a safe sub much easier than designing a safe rocket ship. Thanks for underscoring my point. A nice slow sink is way less stressful than the pogo oscillation of 34,500 kN of thrust.



No.
Posted by BK Lounge
Member since Nov 2021
4724 posts
Posted on 6/22/23 at 1:26 am to
quote:

To do the trip, you have to sign a long waiver about the vast amount of things that can go wrong and kill you and you accept that you risk your life.






Not that this will stop lawyers from doing their thing- but at least it’s a starting point to say ‘Hey, these guys knew exactly what they were getting into, all the shite that could go wrong and they still signed up for it.’

Posted by MrLSU
Yellowstone, Val d'isere
Member since Jan 2004
28354 posts
Posted on 6/22/23 at 1:45 am to
I would feel safer taking a 12 ft flatboat out of Cypress Cove Marina on my way to the Mars Platform than getting in a tin can sub at 14k feet
Posted by Tuscaloosa
13x Award Winning SECRant user
Member since Dec 2011
49322 posts
Posted on 6/22/23 at 2:29 am to
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Not that this will stop lawyers from doing their thing-


I hope they do their thing and blame the CEO’s comments about not hiring 50 year old white men to operate.

That would be awesome.
Posted by SEClint
New Orleans, LA/Portland, OR
Member since Nov 2006
49121 posts
Posted on 6/22/23 at 2:55 am to
Rich dudes need to stay out of that part of the ocean
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