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re: Titanic tourist submarine goes missing
Posted on 6/21/23 at 10:54 pm to crap4brain
Posted on 6/21/23 at 10:54 pm to crap4brain
quote:
told the BBC
Barry is a journalist
Posted on 6/21/23 at 11:00 pm to LSU4lyfe
Tik tok found it
Not sure if it’s been posted yet. I know zero about sharks but the fact that this data has already been deleted is a little fishy.
Not sure if it’s been posted yet. I know zero about sharks but the fact that this data has already been deleted is a little fishy.
Posted on 6/21/23 at 11:06 pm to johnnydrama
quote:
Really? 49 pages in?
Page 49 is my neighborhood.
Posted on 6/21/23 at 11:06 pm to MikeD
Someone needs to send down some Morse cose:
..-..--- ..---.-.-
[You have 24 hours of oxygen left]
.-..--....--.-.-
[That's for 5 people, 5 days for one guy]
.--..-.-.----...-.-.--..
[Just sayin']
..-..--- ..---.-.-
[You have 24 hours of oxygen left]
.-..--....--.-.-
[That's for 5 people, 5 days for one guy]
.--..-.-.----...-.-.--..
[Just sayin']
Posted on 6/21/23 at 11:18 pm to mmcgrath
This was on Reddit.
-I watched a couple of videos on youtube about this sub. Here are some highlights that might interest you:
* There are 7 playstation controllers onboard for redundancy.
* The two different beacon systems they have to communicate stopped at the same time at around 2/3 of the depth they were trying to reach. The beacons are normally not on the same circuit and one is autonomous to send out pings. The odds don't look good because both beacons stopped at the same time which is not supposed to happen even if there is a complete power loss inside the sub.
* There are seven different systems to resurface and one that does not need power or people that are alive to work. The sub IS supposed to resurface by itself at some point. It should have by now. The odds don't look good on this fact alone.
* The protocol is that if any system is showing a failure, it prompts an abort of the trip and a resurfacing. They have not resurfaced so it does not look good.
* The three main problems they can have are: 1-loss of power 2-sub integrity failure 3-entanglement. While an integrity failure combined with an implosion will kill you instantly, the two other failures would need to be combined for the sub not to resurface and lose comms. It seems likely they faced one of these two situations.
* They have to go through different complex systems for their oxygen to last to the theorical limit in time. The last step is using oxygen tanks stored on board. If they lost power, like it seems, their time is reduced by a lot...
* The sub can only be opened from the outside. Even if they resurfaced they can die of a lack of oxygen. Time is then of the essence, they have until tomorrow to be saved or face death no matter what happened.
* They usually are navigating in pitch dark with short messages from the mothership telling them where to go. It's passive navigation. They don't really know where they are at any time and recently the sub once got lost wondering around on the seabed for a while without finding the Titanic because of problems with the trajectory computing.
* It's an unregulated sub using a titanium and carbon fiber structure built with Nasa and the university of Washington.
* To do the trip, you have to sign a long waiver about the vast amount of things that can go wrong and kill you and you accept that you risk your life.
* The sub is also controlled by two touchscreens like the one in a Telsa. No direct systems, switches or panels exist to control or override anything like in a normal craft . This is not a sophisticated vessel but a very simplified one. People reported it is "hacky".
* If they are trapped at their last reported depth, they will surely die no matter what because no vehicle can operate a rescue mission at this depth.
td;lr If they survive it will be nothing short of a miracle.
-I watched a couple of videos on youtube about this sub. Here are some highlights that might interest you:
* There are 7 playstation controllers onboard for redundancy.
* The two different beacon systems they have to communicate stopped at the same time at around 2/3 of the depth they were trying to reach. The beacons are normally not on the same circuit and one is autonomous to send out pings. The odds don't look good because both beacons stopped at the same time which is not supposed to happen even if there is a complete power loss inside the sub.
* There are seven different systems to resurface and one that does not need power or people that are alive to work. The sub IS supposed to resurface by itself at some point. It should have by now. The odds don't look good on this fact alone.
* The protocol is that if any system is showing a failure, it prompts an abort of the trip and a resurfacing. They have not resurfaced so it does not look good.
* The three main problems they can have are: 1-loss of power 2-sub integrity failure 3-entanglement. While an integrity failure combined with an implosion will kill you instantly, the two other failures would need to be combined for the sub not to resurface and lose comms. It seems likely they faced one of these two situations.
* They have to go through different complex systems for their oxygen to last to the theorical limit in time. The last step is using oxygen tanks stored on board. If they lost power, like it seems, their time is reduced by a lot...
* The sub can only be opened from the outside. Even if they resurfaced they can die of a lack of oxygen. Time is then of the essence, they have until tomorrow to be saved or face death no matter what happened.
* They usually are navigating in pitch dark with short messages from the mothership telling them where to go. It's passive navigation. They don't really know where they are at any time and recently the sub once got lost wondering around on the seabed for a while without finding the Titanic because of problems with the trajectory computing.
* It's an unregulated sub using a titanium and carbon fiber structure built with Nasa and the university of Washington.
* To do the trip, you have to sign a long waiver about the vast amount of things that can go wrong and kill you and you accept that you risk your life.
* The sub is also controlled by two touchscreens like the one in a Telsa. No direct systems, switches or panels exist to control or override anything like in a normal craft . This is not a sophisticated vessel but a very simplified one. People reported it is "hacky".
* If they are trapped at their last reported depth, they will surely die no matter what because no vehicle can operate a rescue mission at this depth.
td;lr If they survive it will be nothing short of a miracle.
Posted on 6/21/23 at 11:19 pm to mmcgrath
Man this really sucks because I kinda believe they were alive for a minute. When they said search area the size of Connecticut that was really deflating.
It may take them years to find it. If they ever do.
It may take them years to find it. If they ever do.
Posted on 6/21/23 at 11:28 pm to YNWA
So how would all of these supposed failsafes fail if they aren’t reliant on the power supply? Why would communications and the resurfacing mechanism both fail?
Entanglement seems likely but how would that explain losing communication at 2/3 of the depth?
Entanglement seems likely but how would that explain losing communication at 2/3 of the depth?
Posted on 6/21/23 at 11:29 pm to mmcgrath
The legend lives on from the Titanic on down
In the ocean they called The Atlantic
The ocean, it is said, never gives up her dead
No matter if the adventure's romantic
With a crew of 5 men, 1 toilet with them
The submersible started her journey
That shite ship and crew was a bone to be chewed
When the pressure explosion came early
I tried
In the ocean they called The Atlantic
The ocean, it is said, never gives up her dead
No matter if the adventure's romantic
With a crew of 5 men, 1 toilet with them
The submersible started her journey
That shite ship and crew was a bone to be chewed
When the pressure explosion came early
I tried

Posted on 6/21/23 at 11:35 pm to WinnaSez
quote:
There’s nothing, no propaganda, no studies, absolutely nothing that would ever convince me to get into what looks like an enclosed pontoon boat and travel 2.5 miles into the ocean depths. And to think they paid $250,000 for this lunacy??
Same. Imagine being the son of a billionaire and going on that trip with your dad. fricking stupidest thing I've ever heard, it actually makes me angry.
Posted on 6/21/23 at 11:38 pm to TheArrogantCorndog
You’re no fr33…
good effort though. I’m also glad the shark guy got posted. I’ve missed all his ridiculous shark stuff.

Posted on 6/21/23 at 11:38 pm to FairhopeTider
I’m assuming an extremely violent implosion would knock all that out
Posted on 6/21/23 at 11:48 pm to YNWA
quote:
The two different beacon systems they have to communicate stopped at the same time at around 2/3 of the depth they were trying to reach. The beacons are normally not on the same circuit and one is autonomous to send out pings
I believe the autonomous beacon was on it's own separate battery. The fact that it stopped when contact was lost, pretty much confirms implosion. Carbon fiber hull instantly shattered into a thousand pieces. Maybe one day someone will locate an end cap mixed in the debris field below.
Posted on 6/21/23 at 11:59 pm to FairhopeTider
The way they'd all fail is if it ruptured
Posted on 6/22/23 at 12:23 am to Lakeboy7
quote:
We would have heard that.
"We" did.
Its been posted several times.
Posted on 6/22/23 at 1:13 am to MoarKilometers
quote:
Which would make designing a safe sub much easier than designing a safe rocket ship. Thanks for underscoring my point. A nice slow sink is way less stressful than the pogo oscillation of 34,500 kN of thrust.

No.
Posted on 6/22/23 at 1:26 am to YNWA
quote:
To do the trip, you have to sign a long waiver about the vast amount of things that can go wrong and kill you and you accept that you risk your life.
Not that this will stop lawyers from doing their thing- but at least it’s a starting point to say ‘Hey, these guys knew exactly what they were getting into, all the shite that could go wrong and they still signed up for it.’
Posted on 6/22/23 at 1:45 am to BK Lounge
I would feel safer taking a 12 ft flatboat out of Cypress Cove Marina on my way to the Mars Platform than getting in a tin can sub at 14k feet
Posted on 6/22/23 at 2:29 am to BK Lounge
quote:
Not that this will stop lawyers from doing their thing-
I hope they do their thing and blame the CEO’s comments about not hiring 50 year old white men to operate.
That would be awesome.
Posted on 6/22/23 at 2:55 am to Tuscaloosa
Rich dudes need to stay out of that part of the ocean
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