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re: Tired of life going by and missing out (Update on pg 7: new job)
Posted on 11/7/22 at 4:03 pm to MikeBRLA
Posted on 11/7/22 at 4:03 pm to MikeBRLA
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If you are working more than 40 hours a week you are doing it wrong.
If he’s doing a ton of coaching and sponsoring, it’d be easy to put that in.
OP, if you go to your bosses and ask to step away from some of those responsibilities and they give you shite then transfer schools.
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Posted on 11/7/22 at 4:04 pm to Chucktown_Badger
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Good that it worked for you but very often it can have the opposite effect. I’ve had people with great jobs and great relationships tell me it’s a massive strain.
I'm sure it's a mindset thing. At the risk of sounding like a Hallmark card, I highly doubt I'll ever do anything in law/business that approaches - even within miles - the importance or impact of raising kids. There may be some people out there with big enough jobs/roles that they rightfully need to prioritize those things to a level approaching parenthood or family life, but I don't think that's me and candidly I don't think that's 99.9% of people.
Now mindset won't help people who can't put food on the table, etc., but I don't think that's what you're talking about. I don't think there is anything more human than transitioning from me-first to prioritizing the well being of your family.
As for OP - what are you missing out on? What is it you want?
Posted on 11/7/22 at 4:04 pm to TexasTiger08
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Teach or coach anything that revolves around UIL events and Friday nights and you are chained to your job more than ever.
Trust, I know your pain…my first suggestion: try the TX private ranks. Yeah, les money and benefits, but the hours are much better
Posted on 11/7/22 at 4:05 pm to TexasTiger08
My wife works at a Catholic school, and one of her coworkers is married to a teacher and head soccer coach at a big all boys school. They just had their 4th daughter, and the wife coaches soccer as well. Right now with 4 young girls their life seems like complete chaos, but they do manage.
Posted on 11/7/22 at 4:07 pm to Pettifogger
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As for OP - what are you missing out on? What is it you want?
Not having to cross out 10 Friday nights, 6 Saturdays. I want that time with my wife, whether it’s a weekend getaway or being productive around the house, or sprucing up the backyard and enjoying it.
I want to have time to fairly raise a child when that time comes.
Posted on 11/7/22 at 4:08 pm to TexasTiger08
This is one of those situations where we actually do need pics of the wife to assess the situation. Otherwise you're gonna be getting wildly varying advice.
Posted on 11/7/22 at 4:10 pm to TexasTiger08
The first ten years I spent in education I coached basketball and softball.
It was fun but I was also working an insane number of hours. For the last 14 years I have taught and then coached my own kid’s teams, and now my youngest is in high school so I don’t even coach his teams.
I went from hardly ever being home to a very involved family man.
I also got a Master’s then an Ed.S degree to replace then exceed the income from coaching.
Advantages: Much more time at home, much less stress, parents not getting mad and trying to get me fired because I played another kid over their kid, Summers and other school breaks are truly breaks, my wife is also a teacher and we bought a pop up camper and spent the breaks camping as a family.
Disadvantages: Need to be in a field where you are not required to coach. At my school PE coaches are required to coach 3 sports, Social Studies are required to coach 2. Math and science teachers are not required to coach.
If the school has to make cuts they will keep the coaches.
Administration knows how many hours you put in so they tend to give you the benefit of the doubt.
My best friends in education were the guys I coached with. I miss the relationship with the other coaches.
All in all I’m glad I chose to stop coaching when I had kids and don’t plan or restarting when they go to college.
It was fun but I was also working an insane number of hours. For the last 14 years I have taught and then coached my own kid’s teams, and now my youngest is in high school so I don’t even coach his teams.
I went from hardly ever being home to a very involved family man.
I also got a Master’s then an Ed.S degree to replace then exceed the income from coaching.
Advantages: Much more time at home, much less stress, parents not getting mad and trying to get me fired because I played another kid over their kid, Summers and other school breaks are truly breaks, my wife is also a teacher and we bought a pop up camper and spent the breaks camping as a family.
Disadvantages: Need to be in a field where you are not required to coach. At my school PE coaches are required to coach 3 sports, Social Studies are required to coach 2. Math and science teachers are not required to coach.
If the school has to make cuts they will keep the coaches.
Administration knows how many hours you put in so they tend to give you the benefit of the doubt.
My best friends in education were the guys I coached with. I miss the relationship with the other coaches.
All in all I’m glad I chose to stop coaching when I had kids and don’t plan or restarting when they go to college.
Posted on 11/7/22 at 4:10 pm to BluegrassBelle
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OP, if you go to your bosses and ask to step away from some of those responsibilities and they give you shite then transfer schools.
I know what needs to be done. I need to go from HS to MS. I’ll lose $1500 a year, but get back so much time. I just want the time and the chance to do things for me or us.
Posted on 11/7/22 at 4:12 pm to ScottAndrew
quote:Spoken by people who haven’t been in a classroom in years and never observed a teacher’s entire day.
Then you said teacher and I’m now very very confused
Posted on 11/7/22 at 4:16 pm to TexasTiger08
Add a degree, or two and make that money back several times over.
Posted on 11/7/22 at 4:17 pm to tigergirl10
I have more degrees than you have nuts. And that’s a pretty decent accomplishment given your two nuts
This post was edited on 11/7/22 at 4:18 pm
Posted on 11/7/22 at 4:17 pm to bird35
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Social Studies are required to coach 2.
This is so odd to me. So if you’ve never played a sport in your life, you have to wing it and pretend because you teach social studies?
That's wild. Posted on 11/7/22 at 4:19 pm to TexasTiger08
I’m a teacher and I have plenty of free time. It sounds like what is taking up all your time is the coaching and extras for the measly stipends. I know they can add up but that’s why people end up coaching multiple sports…to make the stipends feel worth it. You know as well as I do that you are paid pennies for all the extra hours you put in coaching. I would seriously consider cutting down or completely cut out the extra stuff. Can you still afford to live as you do without those stipends? Could you afford a child? If not, then one or both should consider a new career but don’t forget the pension you are giving up which is a huge plus and something you can hardly find anymore. It’s the ONLY reason I’m staying in Louisiana until I retire. Once I retire then I am out of here.
Posted on 11/7/22 at 4:24 pm to LouisianaLady
Story from my buddy who is a Social Studies teacher. He went to The University of West Georgia.
Professor: Everyone who can coach a sport remain seated. Everyone else please stand. If you are standing please think about leaving the class. You won’t be very employable.
It is not quite this bad but SS teachers who don’t coach will have to do another activity that also takes a lot of time. Supply and demand as there are a lot of SS teachers.
But yes, at the very good, public high school I have worked for over 20 years the rule is SS teachers have to coach two sports.
Professor: Everyone who can coach a sport remain seated. Everyone else please stand. If you are standing please think about leaving the class. You won’t be very employable.
It is not quite this bad but SS teachers who don’t coach will have to do another activity that also takes a lot of time. Supply and demand as there are a lot of SS teachers.
But yes, at the very good, public high school I have worked for over 20 years the rule is SS teachers have to coach two sports.
Posted on 11/7/22 at 4:26 pm to TexasTiger08
I just retired from teaching / coaching. Was assistant football for 20 years and was head baseball coach for 25 years. Also, was AD for my last 8 years and also drove a bus route that required me to get up everyday at 4:30am. I know exactly what you mean on being burned out . Missed so much of my kids stuff bc of obligations and had to get BIL to escort one of my daughters in Homecoming one year. I loved teaching and coaching but it was definitely time for me . Not sure how many years you have in but the last 10 years will fly by and retirement is not bad at all. Hang in there 
Posted on 11/7/22 at 4:29 pm to bird35
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Disadvantages: Need to be in a field where you are not required to coach. At my school PE coaches are required to coach 3 sports, Social Studies are required to coach 2. Math and science teachers are not required to coach.
I’m really curious how this works. Where are you, in general? I’ve never heard of these kinds of requirements. I could see a PE teacher being required to coach, that makes sense. I can’t think of any I’ve ever had or known that didn’t coach. However, why in the world does a social studies teacher have to coach? Much less 2 sports? And how does that work with hiring? If a very good candidate comes in for an interview but has never had any interest in any sports then they can be denied the job based on the coaching part? Seems ripe for a lawsuit. I guess it comes down to the job description.
Posted on 11/7/22 at 4:29 pm to bird35
Although a ton of people work those kind of hours we aren't made for that. Diet, Exercise, and Rest are the trifecta to health.
While you obviously have purpose in your life being a teacher maybe you have another calling that your blind to?
Too many folks out there trying to put a square peg in the round hole of life.
There is a way...
While you obviously have purpose in your life being a teacher maybe you have another calling that your blind to?
Too many folks out there trying to put a square peg in the round hole of life.
There is a way...
Posted on 11/7/22 at 4:30 pm to TexasTiger08
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I’m tired of the 65-70 hour weeks in the fall. I’m tired of working 2-3 Saturdays a month in the fall. It eases up a bit in the Spring,
You teach Public Accounting?
This post was edited on 11/7/22 at 4:31 pm
Posted on 11/7/22 at 4:32 pm to TexasTiger08
Dont listen to Winston Cup!!! Never post pics of your wife without her consent!
Posted on 11/7/22 at 4:35 pm to TexasTiger08
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We are both teachers
Not a bad job at all for parents. Once you have a couple years under your belt, teaching should be a 40 hour a week job with at least twice the vacations and holidays as normal corporate world jobs.
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and both involved in extracurricular stuff and coaching
How about don't do as much of this? Do you have to do all of it to keep your teaching job?
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