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re: Time for the annual Catholic Schools Closing announcements

Posted on 1/18/20 at 2:04 pm to
Posted by biglego
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Posted on 1/18/20 at 2:04 pm to
Yeah I’m only 40 so my memory might not stretch that far back, but I remember when Manhattan Blvd was wooded, there was a bunch of different groceries like National, Nicholson & Loup, Canal Villere, and the Section 8 crowd was mostly confined to the Fisher projects.

There was certainly Avondale, the river road industries, etc and maybe a lot of that is still there. Sec 8 has just destroyed everything.
Posted by choupiquesushi
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Posted on 1/18/20 at 5:49 pm to
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Partially, but that is so 15-20 years ago.
Nola is just doing better than they had been at the school thing. Jefferson Parish too. Some Catholic schools are still doing well, but the number that are having a hard time is growing.

I don't know how Shaw hasn't shut down yet.

. Arch diocese needs Salesian’s
Posted by Martini
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Posted on 1/18/20 at 6:04 pm to
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Starts with the overbloated ominous big government So much money is needed for government workers and their early retirements that the people dont get services anymore. Taxes are continually going up and everything is overpriced. Need to keep bug government happy. Back in the day with a much smaller government, my parents sent many many kids to catholic schools on one income with no problem. I almost all problems are due to big government



What the frick does this even mean?
Posted by 4cubbies
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Posted on 1/18/20 at 6:11 pm to
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Many of those charter schools are subpar. They tweak their stats to look better.
how do they tweak their stats?
Posted by Golfer
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Posted on 1/18/20 at 6:12 pm to
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That was 14 years ago. Why did it take them so long to close?


Because PreK-8 is 10 years of schooling when you have committed families to the program with kids that are older, it takes about 15-20 years for the school/Parish to dwindle enough in numbers to close.
Posted by 4cubbies
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Posted on 1/18/20 at 6:15 pm to
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For one Lusher kind of started getting kids from uptown private schools.

Hynes in Lakeview is a very good charter school and I know at least five families that send there kids there that would traditionally be a catholic school family.

There is another one that is doing decent too, but I can't think of the name right now.


The ones everyone wants are Hynes, Morris Jeff, Lycee Francais, Audubon uptown and Audubon Gentilly, which just opened. Hynes either just opened or is about to open a campus near UNO so that will be another good option.

ETA and lusher ot course.
This post was edited on 1/18/20 at 6:17 pm
Posted by Jake88
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Posted on 1/18/20 at 6:39 pm to
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how do they tweak their stats?
Something about disciplinary issues.
Posted by Modern
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Posted on 1/19/20 at 1:45 pm to
One thing to point out with the decreasing catholic elementary enrollment numbers...Back in the 90’s, if your child wasn’t in a catholic elementary school, good luck trying to get them into a catholic high school.

I don’t recall anyone I know recently that didn’t get admitted into their first choice school.

Flash forward to today. A lot of my cousins put their kids through public elementary school either magnet or gifted/talented route. And when they got to HS, they made the decision to either go CHS/SJA or BR High route....

The ones that went CHS/SJA had no problem getting admitted....yeah, they had good grades/conduct/attendance. But they were not competing for leftover seats like in the 90’s where you only had maybe 3 left seats after catholic elementary feeder kids and *coughathleticscough*
Posted by TchoupitoulasStreet
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Posted on 1/19/20 at 2:30 pm to
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k-8 will run a young family about 30 grand in BR for one kid. I can't imagine what it is in Nola


It’s about 17k a year in Nola.
Posted by chRxis
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Posted on 1/19/20 at 2:36 pm to
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Christ the King on the westbank

i'm pretty sure that's where my wife went to school... i know her high school shut down a few years ago (Blenk)
Posted by chRxis
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Posted on 1/19/20 at 2:37 pm to
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k-8 will run a young family about 30 grand in BR for one kid. I can't imagine what it is in Nola


It’s about 17k a year in Nola.


yeah, frick that...
Posted by 4cubbies
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Posted on 1/19/20 at 2:38 pm to
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It’s about 17k a year in Nola.


For Newman, maybe.
Posted by GoIrish02
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Posted on 1/19/20 at 2:57 pm to
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It's very noticeable to me, loss of the Naval Support Activity has also affected the demographics of the West Bank....Algiers Point and Old Gretna are holding on very well, but with the public school options available to them, why send your kids to Catholic school...


I grew up in Algiers (St. Andrew the Apostle, then Benjamin Franklin) and the West Bank is now the next New Orleans East, circa early mid 1980s (i.e. the place white people used to live, at least the nice part of Orleans parish) I don't mean to include west Jefferson as part of the nice area of the westbank).

My parents decided to move away in late 2015 when my great aunt was rammed from behind as a prelude to a carjacking on Kabel Drive & Gallatin at 11 am on a weekday, 1 block from her house. On Christmas Eve 2017, there was a shooting at 5:30 PM on MacArthur Blvd, moments before church let out at Saint Andrew.

I live in Old Metairie now, as do both of my sisters and their families. My cousin lives in Old Gretna, a very nice area, but I joke with her "too bad it's on the West Bank!" Plus, I am moving to the Northshore next year, because the same demographics are coming for east Jefferson, slowly but surely. I've lived here for 8 years and it's getting bad now on the nice side of the tracks.
This post was edited on 1/19/20 at 3:01 pm
Posted by GoIrish02
Member since Mar 2012
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Posted on 1/19/20 at 3:06 pm to
The US population fell off a cliff beginning in 1990 and hit bottom in 1992, when it fell below replacement rate, so there are literally not enough people to fill the spots in every school. The population has not recovered and will not unless there is a major generational change, plus any change is 15+ year away.

If you were born in 1980s, the 'first choice, second choice' high school allocation system is not necessary any more. No one gets rejected, the schools are happy to have anybody.

It's also why we will see the massive closing of many universities in the next 10+ years and the bursting of the college tuition bubble.
Posted by LSU316
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Posted on 1/19/20 at 3:39 pm to
My daughter goes to a Catholic school here in Crowley and from what I can tell they have had steady enrollment for at least the last 20-30 years often with growth years. Including last year when they uptook about 8-10 kids on average per grade from a failed second Catholic elementary school in Crowley.

The shite kicker of it is that tution goes up every year. I'm sure that an increase is warranted in lot of cases but I still would like to see what the total expenses are and the breakdown of them especially when 90% of the probably less than 30 teachers working there make less than 40K per year.

ETA I'd like to see how much money from the school is kicked back to the Parish and the Diocese....if it's anything substantial it's bullshite.
This post was edited on 1/19/20 at 3:41 pm
Posted by saderade
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Posted on 1/19/20 at 4:25 pm to
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It’s about 17k a year in Nola.
No it’s not. The majority of the traditional New Orleans area K-8 Catholic grammar schools are 5-6k per year.
Posted by TchoupitoulasStreet
Member since Jan 2020
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Posted on 1/19/20 at 4:29 pm to
Well, I have two kids one in kindergarten and one in 4th grade and that’s what I pay. I also know it’s not one the most expensive schools in the city.
This post was edited on 1/19/20 at 4:50 pm
Posted by OvertheDwayneBowe
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Posted on 1/19/20 at 4:34 pm to
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Well, I have two kids one in kindergarten and one in 4th grade and that’s what I pay. I also know for a fact it’s not one the most expensive schools in the city.


This is a couple of years old, but it looks like your kids go to Sacred Heart or Stuart Hall. And yes, 17k is way more than 90% of the schools in the area.

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This post was edited on 1/19/20 at 4:46 pm
Posted by 4cubbies
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Posted on 1/19/20 at 4:45 pm to
I know for a fact most Catholic elementary schools in the GNO area cost around $5k/year.
Posted by TchoupitoulasStreet
Member since Jan 2020
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Posted on 1/19/20 at 4:53 pm to
I really don’t know the average cost. We moved to the city a few years ago and did a little research of private schools and ended up selecting the school in the middle price point of the ones we researched. I just assumed that it was close to the average. According to the article recently linked, I was incorrect.
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