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re: Tier 1 of shittiest states list; Alabama says goodbye to Mississippi and Louisiana

Posted on 8/4/24 at 10:41 am to
Posted by tide06
Member since Oct 2011
23405 posts
Posted on 8/4/24 at 10:41 am to
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Did you know that a automobile plant wanted to locate in Louisiana but they were approached by the crooks and they said no way in hell that we are going to build an auto plant in Louisiana. Montgomery, Alabama got the plant .

So… Hyundai?

Alabama is quietly becoming a hub for auto manufacturing which I forgot to mention.

Toyota, Hyundai, Kia and Mercedes all have major factories in the state now.

The reason why the Midwest became the protype for the American Midwest is that they had primary jobs paying very livable wages which allowed all sorts of secondary employment and businesses to thrive.

The south is enjoying that now and I look forward to the day when places like Tuscaloosa and Montgomery can thrive the way towns like Saginaw, Flint and others did in the 1960s and 1970s before NAFTA and the UAW gutted our industrial base.
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
65900 posts
Posted on 8/4/24 at 10:57 am to
Terrible news. I want liberals in other states to continue to believe Alabama is awful.
Posted by Granola
Member since Jan 2024
1959 posts
Posted on 8/4/24 at 11:07 am to
I have lived in Louisiana and Alabama. The black belt area of Alabama is pretty bad
Posted by pbro62
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2016
15325 posts
Posted on 8/4/24 at 11:29 am to
frick you and your liberal voting Georgia arse
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
65900 posts
Posted on 8/4/24 at 12:46 pm to
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The black belt area of Alabama is pretty bad


There are areas in every state that you should probably avoid.

I grew up in a part of what is described as the "black belt" in Alabama, and I'd honestly say it's a pretty nice area. I wouldn't recommend moving to Selma or Montgomery though.
Posted by wm72
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2010
9426 posts
Posted on 8/4/24 at 2:06 pm to
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I have lived in Louisiana and Alabama. The black belt area of Alabama is pretty bad


Yeah, Alabama defintely has some pretty large areas that are among the poorest you can find anywhere in the US.

Much of that black belt region has staggering statistics like 40% below the poverty line and is also an area where the census completely misses a lot of people.






Posted by Reservoir dawg
Member since Oct 2013
15130 posts
Posted on 8/5/24 at 12:39 am to
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You need to check your facts…MS voted 57.6% for Trump in 2020 and Biden had only 41.06%…


41.6 % is a lot.
Posted by shadyone2
Member since Oct 2017
1110 posts
Posted on 8/5/24 at 6:46 am to
They are nearly 40% African American brah. The largest percent of any state. Check it out.
Posted by shadyone2
Member since Oct 2017
1110 posts
Posted on 8/5/24 at 6:47 am to
The drive from Mobile to Montgomery should be outlawed. Miserable drive.
Posted by WonPercent
BATON ROUGE
Member since Aug 2023
1273 posts
Posted on 8/5/24 at 6:56 am to
"West Virginia is shittier than Mississippi, Alabama, or Louisiana"

Grew up in WV and moved to La in my early 20s. If the world was one big house, I moved from one bathroom into another one.
Posted by Deplorable Duke
Lousyana
Member since Nov 2016
2619 posts
Posted on 8/5/24 at 7:06 am to
I call bullshite—Lousyana is always the best at being the worst
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
115495 posts
Posted on 8/5/24 at 7:08 am to
I so fricking hate when I downvote before looking at the author of the post.
Posted by Violent Hip Swivel
Member since Aug 2023
9439 posts
Posted on 8/5/24 at 9:07 am to
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The average temperature for the month of January is 33 degrees. While that is fine for skiing for a week, it is miserable to live in cold weather like that surrounded by an opioid epidemic, and no industry for work. Mountains are nice to ride through, but it gets old living in them in the winter and it’s often a windy, blustery 20 degrees outside.



People say that cold shitty weather doesn't bother them until they actually move there and the days turn into weeks and the weeks turn into months lol.
Posted by Espritdescorps
Member since Nov 2020
2762 posts
Posted on 8/6/24 at 10:16 am to
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Doesn’t mean you know anymore than anyone else anymore - Covid proved that. You do just as your overlords tell you or lose your license. Trust the science. Do you still wear a mask in public or your car? LOL


I think you missed my original comment. I was always outspoken against the COVID panic quarantining and told coworkers that it was going to actually increase healthcare cost burden long term … heart disease , diabetes, depression, psych hospitalizations, suicides, substance abuse… all exponentially increased as a result .. was called a conspiracy theorist 4 years ago
Posted by Govt Tide
Member since Nov 2009
9569 posts
Posted on 8/6/24 at 9:43 pm to
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The parts of Alabama you mentioned are doing great but they could reenergize Montgomery and Tuscaloosa. I feel both cities have a lot of potential but haven’t flourished like a Huntsville, Mobile and Birmingham.


I'm not sure I'd lump Tuscaloosa in with Montgomery when it comes to being stagnant. I too assumed Tuscaloosa was rather stagnant but it's actually been the 4th fastest growing metro in the state from 2020 to 2023 and not that far behind Auburn/Opelika as far as growth rates are concerned.

1) Daphne-Fairhope-Foley - 253,507 231,767 +9.38%
2) Huntsville - 527,254 491,723 +7.23%
3) Auburn-Opelika - 201,585 193,773 +4.03%
4) Tuscaloosa - 278,290 268,674 +3.58%

Meanwhile...

Montgomery - 385,480 386,047 -0.15%
Posted by wadewilson
Member since Sep 2009
41571 posts
Posted on 8/6/24 at 9:45 pm to
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The south is enjoying that now and I look forward to the day when places like Tuscaloosa and Montgomery can thrive the way towns like Saginaw, Flint and others did in the 1960s and 1970s before NAFTA and the UAW gutted our industrial base.


Nothing like a bunch of workers making under $20/hour in a non-union plant to put lots of dollars into a local economy.
Posted by Slinky Dog Travel
Member since Jul 2024
39 posts
Posted on 8/6/24 at 9:46 pm to
Tourism to beaches, a good governor for years, suburbs with solid schools, and lots of business relocating to the state.
Posted by tide06
Member since Oct 2011
23405 posts
Posted on 8/6/24 at 10:20 pm to
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The overall economy in the Mobile area is doing well. People are moving out of certain areas of Mobile proper, but staying close in rapidly growing areas to the north, west and especially the Eastern Shore.

Mobile is complicated for the reasons you outlined.

The urban center is on life support outside of one or two pockets due to crime. The crime must be fixed or at least contained like it is in Birmingham to certain areas or else you will never attract commerce downtown again.

But the eastern shore is exploding at the expense of Mobile and if I give Birmingham credit for Mountain Brook / Vestavia Hills, etc I have to give Mobile credit for the growth across the causeway.

I just hope Fairhope doesn’t lose what makes it an incredible place to visit or live in the face of the growth to the north.
Posted by tide06
Member since Oct 2011
23405 posts
Posted on 8/6/24 at 10:28 pm to
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Nothing like a bunch of workers making under $20/hour in a non-union plant to put lots of dollars into a local economy.

Avg unskilled plant guy at Hyundai is making $40k plus benefits. Skilled trades are much better than that.

I’d like to see the line guys get up to $75k or so to make it more livable but it sure beats Walmart or watching another plant relo to Mexico.
Posted by Saunson69
Stephen the Pirate
Member since May 2023
8230 posts
Posted on 8/6/24 at 10:28 pm to
There are several very large infrastructure sites in WV. I'm working on one. 3 GW powerplants, etc..
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