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re: Three LSU Phi Mu's die in helicopter crash with billionaire Chris Cline

Posted on 7/7/19 at 1:12 pm to
Posted by Sweltering Chill
Member since Aug 2017
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Posted on 7/7/19 at 1:12 pm to
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The daughter, right? What does a 21-22 year old girl have a physical emergency for? Appendicitis?




Seriously ? About a million different things.

Hell, there’s a story all over the news this morning about a 20 yr old Disney kid who died from a seizure in his sleep.. Ish happens, at any age.
Posted by White Roach
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 7/7/19 at 1:13 pm to
I'm not sure of the geography and I know there are over 100 islands in the Bahamas. I don't know the cruising speed of a AW-139 either. But it seems like it wouldn't be a very long flight - maybe 60 or 90 minutes.
Posted by JudgeHolden
Gila River
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 7/7/19 at 1:17 pm to
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Cline wanted fly on his own to keep things quiet rather than go with a Medevac.


I genuinely hope this isn’t true for the sake of the other parents.

It’s enough to lose a kid. But to lose a kid because someone wouldn’t call the CG due to drug involvement? What do you do with that kind of anger?
Posted by Priapus
Member since Oct 2012
1950 posts
Posted on 7/7/19 at 1:19 pm to
FWIW, everyone worrying about how many people were onboard, that ship is capable of holding 2 crew and 15 passengers. 7 total people is nothing.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 7/7/19 at 1:20 pm to
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What do you do with that kind of anger?

I can only imagine the settlements if that story is true, because the family will want confidentiality
Posted by secfballfan
Member since Feb 2016
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Posted on 7/7/19 at 1:22 pm to
So if someone was sick why not have an MD fly over with them if it can hold 17 people?
Posted by mikelbr
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2008
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Posted on 7/7/19 at 1:23 pm to
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Hell, there’s a story all over the news this morning about a 20 yr old Disney kid who died from a seizure in his sleep.. Ish happens, at any age

I wonder if his parents called 911 or called a good friend to drive him to the hospital.
Posted by Sweltering Chill
Member since Aug 2017
2150 posts
Posted on 7/7/19 at 1:26 pm to
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I wonder if his parents called 911 or called a good friend to drive him to the hospital.



Not sure why you quoted my post, the question i was responding to had nothing to do with why the guy didnt call 911.. it was asking what could possibly affect a young person in their early 20s enough to need immediate medical attention, and i was pointing out that the list is literally endless.
Posted by mikelbr
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2008
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Posted on 7/7/19 at 1:27 pm to
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I can only imagine the settlements if that story is true, because the family will want confidentiality

I was going to say start by owning a piece of a coal empire while grieving...
Posted by soccerfüt
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Posted on 7/7/19 at 1:30 pm to
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“The night before, me and my brother-in-law, we watched the chopper come in,” McIntosh told The Guardian yesterday. “We watched it land and in about half an hour it [went] back up. “As it [went] back up, it didn’t get very high. It went up and in about five minutes it just ‘boop’. “The light just disappeared and it was a loud crash. It was a loud bang in the water.” He said, “We jumped in our boats and we went searching. This was about 2:30 a.m. and we went searching from about 2 a.m. to 4 a.m., almost 5 a.m., the next day. “Where it was so dark, we really couldn’t see anything because it was too dark so we called back to the island and they said, ‘No, no, no. The chopper is back in the states.’ So, I said ok, fine.” McIntosh said he thought that was it. But police said around 2 p.m. on Thursday, Cline’s helicopter was reported missing. Delvin Major, chief investigator at the Air Accident Investigation Department, said the helicopter had departed Grand Cay, Abaco, and was en route to Fort Lauderdale, Florida, when it crashed. Search and rescue efforts began after the aircraft was reported “overdue” by authorities, according to Major. McIntosh said he then went to Big Grand Cay to break the news to Cline’s employees. Then he set out with officials to find the chopper. When officials finally located the crash site, McIntosh said he was “heartbroken”. “Everybody just was in a daze. Man, it was just tears, you know? It was just tears.” He was also present when divers pulled Cline’s body out of the water. McIntosh struggled to recount the discovery. “Mr. Cline actually…was one of the first ones that came out,” he said, choking back tears. “…Just then, a kid came out. It was four kids and they were about 19 to 21 years of age, kids in their prime. “They had just graduated from college and came home to have fun and then boom; here today and gone tomorrow. It’s life.”

If that dude ain’t from Appalachia, I ain’t breathing.
Posted by JudgeHolden
Gila River
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 7/7/19 at 1:32 pm to
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So if someone was sick why not have an MD fly over with them if it can hold 17 people?


You don’t just pick one up at Walgreens.
Posted by mikelbr
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2008
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Posted on 7/7/19 at 1:35 pm to
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You don’t just pick one up at Walgreens

If only there was a qualified team of pilots and med evac professionals sleeping 100ft from a well-maintained aircraft that could be there within an hour.
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
22442 posts
Posted on 7/7/19 at 1:54 pm to
From what I know about a family member that owns a private Jet, if it was a true emergency I very much doubt that Cline’s own people would be the ones picking them up unless he paid them to be on call that week which very well maybe the case. Just because you have a private plane/ helicopter and pilot doesn’t mean they are on call ready to go in 30 minutes.

Also, those guys are doubtful to be un trained imo. Who knows, could be the case, but I doubt it. Training is a drop in the bucket in costs to owning a private plane with a pilot.

The idea that Cline wanted to keep this off the radar seems silly. I never heard of this guy and most didn’t, it wasn’t Soro’s Or Bezos or Trump.

I would think where they were if you had a private island, you’d likely have a number for emergency medical evac. Whether that is private or public if it’s a truly serious issue.
Posted by JudgeHolden
Gila River
Member since Jan 2008
18566 posts
Posted on 7/7/19 at 1:58 pm to
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Also, those guys are doubtful to be un trained imo.


I agree. But they are also unlikely to have a lot of night IFR time over water.

It don’t matter at all where you’ve flown before, that’s a brand new game.
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
22442 posts
Posted on 7/7/19 at 2:01 pm to
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But they are also unlikely to have a lot of night IFR time over water.


I don’t know, honestly don’t. But if I’m a billionaire with a helicopter I’m thinking I’m using it a lot at night in Miami. All winter long it gets dark by 5. I would think those guys would be flying passengers and crew and crap to his private island from Florida pretty routinely at night.
Posted by JudgeHolden
Gila River
Member since Jan 2008
18566 posts
Posted on 7/7/19 at 2:05 pm to
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over Miami


You’ve got a horizon because of the lights. You’ve also got a hell of a lot more nav aids.

Not the same as pure overwater.
Posted by Golfer
Member since Nov 2005
75052 posts
Posted on 7/7/19 at 2:05 pm to
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If that dude ain’t from Appalachia, I ain’t breathing.


Pretty sure he’s a Bahamian local that works on the island for Cline.
Posted by TheOcean
#honeyfriedchicken
Member since Aug 2004
44350 posts
Posted on 7/7/19 at 2:37 pm to
Alcohol poisoning is much more likely than OD
Posted by chinhoyang
Member since Jun 2011
25039 posts
Posted on 7/7/19 at 2:42 pm to
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I agree. But they are also unlikely to have a lot of night IFR time over water.

It don’t matter at all where you’ve flown before, that’s a brand new game.


When my Dad was flying Skyraiders in a Marine special weapon (nuke) squadron, he said they would practice flying very low. He said they started having some pilots crash into large lakes when flying low over water due to some spacial disorientation issue (so they increased altitude over water).

I wish he was still around so I could pick his brain about the crash (he was the first graduate of the first USMC helicopter school and flew a lot of hours in different helos - including Korea and Vietnam.
Posted by Priapus
Member since Oct 2012
1950 posts
Posted on 7/7/19 at 2:49 pm to
At the rate the Sinaloans are slipping fentanyl into every drug for an extra kick, that probably isn't true anymore. What a shame if all those people were lost for the lack of $30 worth of Narcan.
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