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re: Thousands of Pine Trees are totally brown

Posted on 11/15/23 at 7:11 am to
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
75338 posts
Posted on 11/15/23 at 7:11 am to
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I have 3 in my backyard. Nice way to spend 4k before Christmas
What? You need to shop around. I had pines cut and taken for $400 per tree last fall in covington.
Posted by GeauxVols
Franklin
Member since Nov 2007
219 posts
Posted on 11/15/23 at 7:19 am to
We had a number of arborvitae (green giants) succumb to root rot. Likely what you are seeing with these pine trees.
Posted by Mouth
Member since Jan 2008
22045 posts
Posted on 11/15/23 at 12:19 pm to
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Lighting struck thousands of pine trees in central Mississippi all at once?


it is a combo of beetles/disease.

its not from a drought. dumb arse.
Posted by Rabby
Member since Mar 2021
995 posts
Posted on 11/15/23 at 1:12 pm to
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If you have dead or dying trees on your property that aren't a threat to your home, outbuildings, or electricity, consider leaving them. We need dead standing trees in our ecosystems, too, but most people will take them down, even if they threaten nothing. Many species rely on them for nesting.
As an avid birder, I would like to agree with you, but in the case of beetle ridden trees, getting them down ASAP is important for the rest of your pines trees.
If there are the small beetle holes in the bark or the crown is brown - take it down.
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
92593 posts
Posted on 11/15/23 at 1:19 pm to
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Now in the Delta there are large stands that are dying and the states are blaming on brown spot needle blight instead of the real cause which is herbicide drift


While I was think it is probably a bit of "all of the above", you're mostly right.
This post was edited on 11/15/23 at 1:20 pm
Posted by OweO
Plaquemine, La
Member since Sep 2009
117969 posts
Posted on 11/15/23 at 1:21 pm to
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Pine trees are trashy



I don't know if they are trashy or not, but they are not trees you want close to your house. During Gustav two of them fell down in my back yard, one hitting the roof thats between the back part of my house and a part we call "the shop". There is a breeze way between them that is connected by the roof. I didn't see it happen, but I did see one across the street from me bend like it was made out of rubber then snap. After that, I got the other ones in my back yard cut down.

Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora
Member since Sep 2012
70614 posts
Posted on 11/15/23 at 2:27 pm to
$400/ tree? Was it a large amount of trees? Did they grind the stumps?
Posted by Randman
Mississippi
Member since Feb 2018
344 posts
Posted on 11/15/23 at 2:57 pm to
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quote:

Lighting struck thousands of pine trees in central Mississippi all at once?
it is a combo of beetles/disease. its not from a drought. dumb arse.


You’re the dumbass that suggested they were all dead from a lightning strike.
Posted by BRich
Old Metairie
Member since Aug 2017
2545 posts
Posted on 11/15/23 at 2:58 pm to
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Beatles and disease,


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makes controlling the Beatles much harder


Posted by Mouth
Member since Jan 2008
22045 posts
Posted on 11/15/23 at 3:20 pm to
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You’re the dumbass that suggested they were all dead from a lightning strike.


actually, I suggested pine beetles as well. I was responding to your OP so I had very little details to go by. So I also mentioned lighting.

but you keep believing 2 months of no rain is killing pine tree's instead of an infestation.

evergreens can keep their green 2 years after the effects of a drought.

Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
75338 posts
Posted on 11/16/23 at 7:28 am to
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$400/ tree? Was it a large amount of trees?
Eight

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Did they grind the stumps?
No.

Posted by Randman
Mississippi
Member since Feb 2018
344 posts
Posted on 11/16/23 at 12:11 pm to
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actually, I suggested pine beetles as well. I was responding to your OP so I had very little details to go by. So I also mentioned lighting.


The topic I posted said Thousands of pine trees. That should have been your clue it wasn’t caused by lightning.

quote:

but you keep believing 2 months of no rain is killing pine tree's instead of an infestation.


Where did I state that preconceived conclusion?
I started the topic asking for input of what was going on. No need for you to get condescending to people having a discussion.

The consensus seems to be that it’s both.
The drought is allowing the beetle infestation to thrive. Not one or the other.
Posted by East Coast Band
Member since Nov 2010
65873 posts
Posted on 11/16/23 at 12:24 pm to
I left a bunch of dead pines in the woods behind my house up.
One, is for wildlife use, second is for I have nowhere to take them once downed.
Posted by Mouth
Member since Jan 2008
22045 posts
Posted on 11/16/23 at 12:44 pm to
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The topic I posted said Thousands of pine trees. That should have been your clue it wasn’t caused by lightning.



My point was. If you see a dead pine tree it’s either lighting or beetles. Sorry to confuse you.
Posted by trident
Member since Jul 2007
4819 posts
Posted on 11/16/23 at 12:52 pm to
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Tree experts: Are they probably dead? Or just in some kind of emergency hibernation?



They are 100% dead and there is a major pine beatle infestation going on. Look around the base of the trunk, if there is residue its beatles. They are wrecking the trees behind my house.

Posted by Rabby
Member since Mar 2021
995 posts
Posted on 11/21/23 at 7:58 pm to
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I left a bunch of dead pines in the woods behind my house up.
Understood.

However, you are risking a greater infestation of Epps and Pine Bark beetles which could attack other area pines. While I am a big fan of giving habitat for our birds, I find that risk is a problem.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
66816 posts
Posted on 11/21/23 at 8:02 pm to
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As an avid birder, I would like to agree with you, but in the case of beetle ridden trees, getting them down ASAP is important for the rest of your pines trees.
If there are the small beetle holes in the bark or the crown is brown - take it down.

I wasn't necessarily just referring to pine or speaking to them exclusively. One of the better decisions I made several years ago was to leave an old, end of life, cotton wood and a dying redbud tree up on my property. They weren't a threat to anything, and I got enjoyment out of seeing what used them. Well, except that time a pair of European Starlings set up housekeeping in the top of the rotted out cotton wood. The pellet gun took care of them, though.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
66816 posts
Posted on 11/21/23 at 8:08 pm to
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Rabby

You sound like you'd enjoy this podcast:

The Headwaters Podcast

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Season Two: Whitebark Pine

Over the course of five chapters, this season documents the generational effort to restore a species. It’s also a story about the purpose of national parks and our relationships with the places we love. Whitebark ask us, can people have a positive impact on nature?


It is centered around Glacier National Park.
Posted by Klark Kent
Houston via BR
Member since Jan 2008
69824 posts
Posted on 11/21/23 at 8:12 pm to
you ever read up on heart pine? and where it all went? we have family property that’s over 200 years old that was built out of heart pine, shite is indestructible.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
66816 posts
Posted on 11/21/23 at 8:15 pm to
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we have family property that’s over 200 years old that was built out of heart pine, shite is indestructible.

The big difference being that that was old growth. Those trees were able to grow slower, get older, and just be all around better wood for building. Our modern pines, grown for mass lumber production, will never match what the old growth pines are/were.
This post was edited on 11/21/23 at 8:16 pm
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