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re: Thoughts on the 2018 Toyota Supra?

Posted on 9/20/17 at 8:24 pm to
Posted by 50_Tiger
Arlington TX
Member since Jan 2016
43551 posts
Posted on 9/20/17 at 8:24 pm to
Here's a link at the BMW Performance Center where the car did testing

Supra @ BMW

Here's another one with the Z4. Note the rather similar engine note.

Supra & Z4
This post was edited on 9/20/17 at 8:28 pm
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
96255 posts
Posted on 9/20/17 at 8:27 pm to
quote:

Toyota loved brown for a while. That one sweet old school Supra save for the color.


I don't think I remember a Supra that wasn't that brown, either.

#TeamYota
This post was edited on 9/20/17 at 8:28 pm
Posted by tigerinthebueche
Member since Oct 2010
38239 posts
Posted on 9/20/17 at 8:30 pm to
quote:

This was one of my dream cars in HS.



Along with the RX-7
Posted by BoostAddict
Member since Jun 2007
3264 posts
Posted on 9/20/17 at 8:33 pm to
What is it with Toyota and their front ends? First they f'd up the 4Runner... now the new Supra. Otherwise, not bad. I would expect more HP than that though.
Posted by Panny Crickets
Fort Worth, TX
Member since Sep 2008
5596 posts
Posted on 9/20/17 at 8:33 pm to
340? What's the point?
Posted by BamaFan89
T-Town
Member since Dec 2009
19303 posts
Posted on 9/20/17 at 8:36 pm to
quote:

MKIV's claim to fame was it's ability to handle 800hp+ on stock long block, very mod friendly and highly dependable.


Do you even N54, baw?

BMW makes some impressive and highly modifiable engines.
Posted by s14suspense
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2007
16178 posts
Posted on 9/20/17 at 8:40 pm to
quote:

MKIV's claim to fame was it's ability to handle 800hp+ on stock long block, very mod friendly and highly dependable.


They're not putting a pig heavy iron block and twin turbos in anything anytime soon. So...

Modern M motors are still extremely tunable.
Posted by s14suspense
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2007
16178 posts
Posted on 9/20/17 at 8:45 pm to
I understand that they worked together on the chassis, but BMW should have let them lie in the bed they made with abysmal V6s recently and scoffing at turbo 4s until they finally came out with their pathetic attempt at one.

"Sure, lets work on an awesome chassis but we're going to reap the rewards of the continued I6 development we have worked on for the last 50 years"
Posted by Restomod
Member since Mar 2012
13493 posts
Posted on 9/21/17 at 7:58 am to
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Do you even N54, baw?

BMW makes some impressive and highly modifiable engines.



Owned one, easily modified, reliability... No so much
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 9/21/17 at 8:02 am to
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It wasn't long ago that a Camaro had 305 and it was considered powerful.


I can't even think of when that was. LT1 cars maybe? The LS1 SS had 320,so that was at least back in 1997. 20 years seems like long ago

Posted by lsu xman
Member since Oct 2006
17020 posts
Posted on 9/21/17 at 8:04 am to
A V6 Camry has 301hp. This Supra needs to be 400hp.

Just make it look like a Gallardo.
Posted by Restomod
Member since Mar 2012
13493 posts
Posted on 9/21/17 at 8:05 am to
quote:

They're not putting a pig heavy iron block and twin turbos in anything anytime soon. So...

Modern M motors are still extremely tunable.


Between HPFP failing, VANOS failure, and connecting rod issues I'm done with M-cars .

When they ran and before engine failure, the M3 and M6 was great.
Posted by soccerfüt
Location: A Series of Tubes
Member since May 2013
76199 posts
Posted on 9/21/17 at 8:07 am to
Köln (Cologne) German License Plate

(The "K" as the single first character)



IWDI
This post was edited on 9/21/17 at 8:08 am
Posted by BamaFan89
T-Town
Member since Dec 2009
19303 posts
Posted on 9/21/17 at 8:10 am to
quote:

Owned one, easily modified, reliability... No so much


The engine itself is dead reliable, now the outsourced turbos, water pump, etc. attached to it....
Posted by madmaxvol
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Member since Oct 2011
22488 posts
Posted on 9/21/17 at 8:11 am to
One of my best friend's first car. Brand new '85 Supra. Everything is a letdown after that...

Posted by Spaceman Spiff
Savannah
Member since Sep 2012
20668 posts
Posted on 9/21/17 at 8:18 am to
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Looks like "Boy Racer" fap material.


Same thing as the big, jacked up truck stuff to compensate?
Posted by Restomod
Member since Mar 2012
13493 posts
Posted on 9/21/17 at 8:32 am to
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The engine itself is dead reliable, now the outsourced turbos, water pump, etc. attached to it....




I get it, but after HPFP failure, turbo rebuilds....Sure it's not the long block but still requires the car to be at the dealer for repair under warranty.
Posted by el Gaucho
He/They
Member since Dec 2010
60171 posts
Posted on 9/21/17 at 8:33 am to
Why not call it the Miata 2?
Posted by SG_Geaux
Beautiful St George, LA
Member since Aug 2004
80831 posts
Posted on 9/21/17 at 8:33 am to
A lot of stupid comments in this thread.

340HP is a lot of power.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 9/21/17 at 8:35 am to
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340HP is a lot of power.



It's really not. My Ford Edge has 320. It;s a lot of power compared to older cars, sure.

Having said that, with the right weight and gearing, it will most likely still be an amazing car to drive. I have no doubt that Toyota will not attach the Supra name to a shitty car.
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