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re: Thoughts on the 2018 Toyota Supra?

Posted on 9/20/17 at 7:29 pm to
Posted by 3en
Member since May 2015
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Posted on 9/20/17 at 7:29 pm to
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I know you baws are trolling but power to weight ratio might suggest otherwise.

I don't think anyone is trolling about this. If this thing wants to have a lifespan outside of one generation, it'll need to weigh less than the 350hp Focus RS which is still a little pudgy at 3459lbs.
Posted by shawnlsu
Member since Nov 2011
23682 posts
Posted on 9/20/17 at 7:32 pm to
quote:

I know you baws are trolling but power to weight ratio might suggest otherwise.

I get that but a legend brought back from the grave deserves much more than 340. That was my point.
Posted by biglego
San Francisco
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 9/20/17 at 7:36 pm to
340hp is pretty powerful if the car isn't heavy. It wasn't long ago that a Camaro had 305 and it was considered powerful.


Posted by baseballmind1212
Missouri City
Member since Feb 2011
3414 posts
Posted on 9/20/17 at 7:39 pm to
quote:

I don't think anyone is trolling about this. If this thing wants to have a lifespan outside of one generation, it'll need to weigh less than the 350hp Focus RS which is still a little pudgy at 3459lbs.


if they can get it sub 3000 lbs with 400+ hp it'll be a beast.

looks like it draws from the new Toyota 86 on the rear end sneak peak
Posted by Restomod
Member since Mar 2012
13493 posts
Posted on 9/20/17 at 7:50 pm to
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if they can get it sub 3000 lbs with 400+ hp it'll be a beast.


Lofty goal... highly doubt it will see those figures. It's MUCH cheaper to add power than it is to reduce weight.

I hate they made it a 2 seater and not a GT like the MKIV
Posted by biglego
San Francisco
Member since Nov 2007
85561 posts
Posted on 9/20/17 at 7:50 pm to
But like someone said, Toyota probably wants to keep it less powerful than the Lexus so it might not get much more than 340
Posted by Restomod
Member since Mar 2012
13493 posts
Posted on 9/20/17 at 7:51 pm to
BMW sourced engine is a fail IMO
Posted by 50_Tiger
Arlington TX
Member since Jan 2016
43551 posts
Posted on 9/20/17 at 7:51 pm to
Not when its the M2 engine
Posted by Tempratt
Member since Oct 2013
15337 posts
Posted on 9/20/17 at 7:53 pm to
Let me guess; turbo 4 banger.
Posted by 50_Tiger
Arlington TX
Member since Jan 2016
43551 posts
Posted on 9/20/17 at 7:53 pm to
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Let me guess; turbo 4 banger.


One config yes. But the main config is a turbo six
Posted by biglego
San Francisco
Member since Nov 2007
85561 posts
Posted on 9/20/17 at 7:54 pm to
They should just put the 5.7 V8 from the Tundra in it
Posted by Waffle House
NYC
Member since Aug 2008
3984 posts
Posted on 9/20/17 at 7:55 pm to
Looks like an Alfa Romeo with the grill filled in.
Posted by Restomod
Member since Mar 2012
13493 posts
Posted on 9/20/17 at 7:55 pm to
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Not when its the M2 engin


Having owned several M cars, you can have it...

MKIV's claim to fame was it's ability to handle 800hp+ on stock long block, very mod friendly and highly dependable.

Posted by baseballmind1212
Missouri City
Member since Feb 2011
3414 posts
Posted on 9/20/17 at 7:56 pm to
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Lofty goal... highly doubt it will see those figures. It's MUCH cheaper to add power than it is to reduce weight.

I thing the Toyota 86 weighs in at 2800 curb weight @ 32k new


a sub 3000lb car @ 400 hp could be had with the a similar build out + 2 cylinders and a factory turbo for 45k in my mind

the real question is what is the price point they are shooting for
Posted by 50_Tiger
Arlington TX
Member since Jan 2016
43551 posts
Posted on 9/20/17 at 7:58 pm to
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Having owned several M cars, you can have it..


I 100% believe you , and I really think you should go test drive that car.

quote:


MKIV's claim to fame was it's ability to handle 800hp+ on stock long block, very mod friendly and highly dependable.



Agree. Just impossible in today's climate.

The shistang GT puts out 460 hp.

Supra is a legend because of the 2jz.

Imo theres only two engines that rival it BARELY: 4g63 and the VQ-series from the 35R
Posted by Restomod
Member since Mar 2012
13493 posts
Posted on 9/20/17 at 7:59 pm to
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I thing the Toyota 86 weighs in at 2800 curb weight @ 32k new


a sub 3000lb car @ 400 hp could be had with the a similar build out + 2 cylinders and a factory turbo for 45k in my mind

the real question is what is the price point they are shooting for


Oh I agree it's easily doable, just don't think they will offer those numbers at that price point.
Posted by baseballmind1212
Missouri City
Member since Feb 2011
3414 posts
Posted on 9/20/17 at 8:01 pm to
quote:

Oh I agree it's easily doable, just don't think they will offer those numbers at that price point.


I gotcha. It would kill that market if they did it
Posted by LesMiles BFF
Lafayette
Member since May 2014
5101 posts
Posted on 9/20/17 at 8:01 pm to
That car is a little "too busy" for my taste.
Posted by dkreller
Laffy
Member since Jan 2009
34303 posts
Posted on 9/20/17 at 8:04 pm to
quote:

the real question is what is the price point they are shooting for

quote:

Toyota

That answers your question.
Posted by s14suspense
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2007
16178 posts
Posted on 9/20/17 at 8:22 pm to
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The Z4 will not be an M car so this means more than likely the Supra will get the highest output spec. The new X3/X4 share similar engine platforms (B58) but will have an M series... Logic tells me to pay attention to that engine which is est 460hp...


I seriously doubt BMW would turn over their full on M engine, whatever it will be called S58? to Toyota for this car. I really don't understand why they'd even turn over their B58 either.
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