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Thoughts on Remote Work/Work From Home Long Term?
Posted on 11/27/20 at 8:58 am
Posted on 11/27/20 at 8:58 am
Like many lost my job of 10 years during the Pandemic and am going to start looking for a new job after the Holidays. One of the things I'm really wanting to focus on is a job that allows at least part time if not full time Remote Work.
I know a lot of people have done the Work From Home thing during this which I think has caused them to miss an opportunity. I was talking to a friend of mine who has been Work From Home since April and she just sets up in her kitchen. I asked if any of her coworkers had started to work remotely in another state and she didn't know of any.
For me the appeal isn't so much Work From Home (all you end up doing is saving money on gas and some car maintenance) but true Remote Work. The ability for me to be able to work out in California one month, then the next month work in some remote mountain area in North Carolina, then the next month maybe working while visiting my parents in Kentucky and then maybe another month working while living over in Europe. True Remote Work where I can work from anywhere.
Some people are skeptical of true Remote Work. The primary concern I hear is that "If your job can be done from anywhere, they can hire from anywhere" meaning the job market truly becomes global. The insinuation being that then all of us will be competing with labor from other countries that are just as skilled but at 1/2 or 1/4 of the price.
Others have also said that they think permanent Remote Work/Work From Home will also hurt advancement opportunities in the future.
What is your opinion on Remote Work/Work From Home Long Term?
I know a lot of people have done the Work From Home thing during this which I think has caused them to miss an opportunity. I was talking to a friend of mine who has been Work From Home since April and she just sets up in her kitchen. I asked if any of her coworkers had started to work remotely in another state and she didn't know of any.
For me the appeal isn't so much Work From Home (all you end up doing is saving money on gas and some car maintenance) but true Remote Work. The ability for me to be able to work out in California one month, then the next month work in some remote mountain area in North Carolina, then the next month maybe working while visiting my parents in Kentucky and then maybe another month working while living over in Europe. True Remote Work where I can work from anywhere.
Some people are skeptical of true Remote Work. The primary concern I hear is that "If your job can be done from anywhere, they can hire from anywhere" meaning the job market truly becomes global. The insinuation being that then all of us will be competing with labor from other countries that are just as skilled but at 1/2 or 1/4 of the price.
Others have also said that they think permanent Remote Work/Work From Home will also hurt advancement opportunities in the future.
What is your opinion on Remote Work/Work From Home Long Term?
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Posted on 11/27/20 at 9:00 am to Saints83
I think it will have profound impacts on our societies mental health by not having people go into the office. Well be a country full of crazy people.
Posted on 11/27/20 at 9:01 am to Saints83
Sounds depressing to me.
I like social interactions even at work. I get bored and lonely quickly if home alone too long. I’m also easily distracted if I have the option to do other things.
But YMMV.
I like social interactions even at work. I get bored and lonely quickly if home alone too long. I’m also easily distracted if I have the option to do other things.
But YMMV.
Posted on 11/27/20 at 9:02 am to Saints83
I think WFH will be far more prevalent, but I see a lot of people, especially on here, have these grand fantasies about it which just don’t seem likely to me
Posted on 11/27/20 at 9:04 am to Saints83
My office did work at home 40-50% for jobs that could do it until we got out of phase 2. Looks like we will be going back to it. I like it personally and would have no issue with that being long term. Don't think I'd like 100% work from home though.
Posted on 11/27/20 at 9:04 am to Saints83
I have loved the extra time with my kids.
Posted on 11/27/20 at 9:06 am to Saints83
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The insinuation being that then all of us will be competing with labor from other countries that are just as skilled but at 1/2 or 1/4 of the price.
When they learn to critically think, actively forecast, and communicate in clear english in both the verbal medium and written, then we might have a problem. For now they can follow a script, and as soon as that doesn't work they hit a wall and are fricked. Hence why they are only valued at 1/2 to 1/4. Guess who their boss and clients are? Probably someone from the US who speaks english and is client facing. Primo clients see the value in individuals whose skill isn't just technical, and errs on the side of refined soft skills.
This post was edited on 11/27/20 at 9:16 am
Posted on 11/27/20 at 9:06 am to GreatLakesTiger24
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I think WFH will be far more prevalent, but I see a lot of people, especially on here, have these grand fantasies about it which just don’t seem likely to me
What grand fantasies have you heard about that don't seem likely?
I'll admit I'm in a unique position. I'm in my mid 30s but I'm not married and don't have children so I truly could live the nomadic lifestyle. I would still keep the condo I bought but I would like to live in other places half of the year. Remote Work would make that possible.
Posted on 11/27/20 at 9:08 am to StringedInstruments
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Sounds depressing to me.
I like social interactions even at work. I get bored and lonely quickly if home alone too long. I’m also easily distracted if I have the option to do other things.
But YMMV.
I guess for me as an Introvert I would love the more quiet office environment. But aren't there other ways for you to get the social interaction you would want? Sports leagues, clubs, church groups, etc.?
Posted on 11/27/20 at 9:08 am to Saints83
OTR trucker here - I'm all for people staying home. Traffic in the major cities has been amazing since March - a few weeks ago I had to make a delivery in Chicago and got to the warehouse an hour early because there was no morning traffic on a regular Friday. Nashville, Atlanta, Dallas, and the major cities in Cali have all been much easier to get through to deliver freight.
Posted on 11/27/20 at 9:09 am to Saints83
Have been WFH since last week of February, not a fan...I miss the people.... would be ok with flexibility, but not permanently
Posted on 11/27/20 at 9:09 am to Saints83
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social interaction you would want? Sports leagues, clubs, church groups, etc.?
You’re still looking at 40 hours a week of quiet work in solitude.
Some people may love that. I wouldn’t. And I’m an introvert.
Posted on 11/27/20 at 9:12 am to Saints83
I’m not a fan of the social isolation in the long term. Video calls are not the same as personal interaction.
Posted on 11/27/20 at 9:12 am to Saints83
The extroverts will want to go back to the office for the small talk, bullshitting, and camraderie.
The introverts will want to work from home because they can actually focus and produce better results in less time.
The ambiverts will prefer a flex schedule and find one that is a good balance for them.
The employers that are worth a shite will recognize this and adapt.
Obviously not all jobs can be done from home, i.e. trucker, carpenter, nurse, police, etc.
The introverts will want to work from home because they can actually focus and produce better results in less time.
The ambiverts will prefer a flex schedule and find one that is a good balance for them.
The employers that are worth a shite will recognize this and adapt.
Obviously not all jobs can be done from home, i.e. trucker, carpenter, nurse, police, etc.
This post was edited on 11/27/20 at 9:14 am
Posted on 11/27/20 at 9:14 am to Saints83
I've been doing it for five years, prior to this I worked in an office for 20 years and had to dress business casual. Also had a 45 min commute each way:
1. You will save money on gas, car (wear and tear), tolls, cloths , lunch, etc etc. I did a study a while back and figured I save 7k a year.
2. Freedom - you can sit around in shorts and a cap scratching your balls and no one gives a crap.
My Drawbacks:
1. I struggle maintaining my weight, I found I was eating out of boredom, and the fridge is too close.
2. Boredom
3. I've become more unsocial and don't really like to be around people, especially crowds. But that might be because I'm an a-hole :)
I love working from home and hope I end my career never having to go back in the office.
1. You will save money on gas, car (wear and tear), tolls, cloths , lunch, etc etc. I did a study a while back and figured I save 7k a year.
2. Freedom - you can sit around in shorts and a cap scratching your balls and no one gives a crap.
My Drawbacks:
1. I struggle maintaining my weight, I found I was eating out of boredom, and the fridge is too close.
2. Boredom
3. I've become more unsocial and don't really like to be around people, especially crowds. But that might be because I'm an a-hole :)
I love working from home and hope I end my career never having to go back in the office.
Posted on 11/27/20 at 9:19 am to StringedInstruments
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You’re still looking at 40 hours a week of quiet work in solitude.
Some people may love that. I wouldn’t. And I’m an introvert.
Interesting point. I will say just being at home in general I've missed some of the social aspects. But that's more due to the fact that social events in general (games, leagues, events, festivals, conventions, etc.) have all been canceled. Heck I even lost my monthly board game group Meetup.
If you can focus on work though without the interaction would you still have to work 40 hours? I've heard from a lot of people that they can get work and projects done quicker. How often do people sit around the office with little to do just because it's expected that they are in the office until 5? Or does your position essentially require you to be on the clock for 40 hours regardless of if you're doing anything or not? I know plenty of positions in both categories, just curious.
This post was edited on 11/27/20 at 9:22 am
Posted on 11/27/20 at 9:19 am to Saints83
Options are always a good thing. I’ve been working remotely during pandemic, but I’d like to have the choice to work at home or in the office. Flexibility.
Posted on 11/27/20 at 9:20 am to OldHickory
For those of you who truly do Remote Work (not just Work From Home) what are some things I will need to consider before going in 100% on the Remote Work route?
Posted on 11/27/20 at 9:23 am to Saints83
A friend told me in his case it was the worse thing for him. He gained 35 lbs from snacking all day. His personal hygiene went downhill just as fast.
He is back in the office now and getting back to a healthy lifestyle. Working from home isn’t for everyone I guess.
He is back in the office now and getting back to a healthy lifestyle. Working from home isn’t for everyone I guess.
Posted on 11/27/20 at 9:23 am to Saints83
The first question to ask your self would be, does my career path support and allow work from home? You can’t just aim for those jobs when in reality you need to be on site occasionally or routinely.
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