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re: Thoughts on Remote Work/Work From Home Long Term?

Posted on 11/27/20 at 9:26 am to
Posted by Ham And Glass
Member since Nov 2016
1518 posts
Posted on 11/27/20 at 9:26 am to
To me, it's about production. I'm a self-starter but have a couple of people that work for me that are not. I see those that are not self-starters working from home plateauing and ending up going nowhere in their career. I don't know but I'd imagine that it would be difficult to maximize your efforts while having the itch to get out and see the places that you are thinking about going.
Posted by themasterpater
I travel
Member since Sep 2014
1342 posts
Posted on 11/27/20 at 9:26 am to
A good pc, two monitors (you can get portable ones), bluetooth ear piece if you're on the phone a lot, a cell carrier hotspot if you're somewhere without wifi. Tempting to work in your underwear, scratch your balls, grow a neck beard, and eat cheetohs...DONT. Not saying you need to be clean shaven or dress business casual in your house, but put yourself together to some degree. Stay on top of your shite, some employers may be skeptical of wfh and will question your output regardless. Wfh can either put the magnifying glass on you, or you could be out of sight out of mind.
Posted by The Torch
DFW The Dub
Member since Aug 2014
19296 posts
Posted on 11/27/20 at 9:26 am to
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He gained 35 lbs from snacking all day. His personal hygiene went downhill


I did this too

Now I try to walk two miles every day to get out, do some lifting and take a shower every morning before I start working.

You have to treat it like you are getting up to go to the office.

Posted by skullhawk
My house
Member since Nov 2007
23050 posts
Posted on 11/27/20 at 9:28 am to
We were in work from home until September. Now we’re back in it. People don’t want to admit it but we were much more productive the last two months in the office.
Posted by Saints83
Member since Nov 2020
31 posts
Posted on 11/27/20 at 9:30 am to
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The first question to ask your self would be, does my career path support and allow work from home? You can’t just aim for those jobs when in reality you need to be on site occasionally or routinely.


I've essentially had 2 different careers. One would potentially allow for remote work while the other absolutely wouldn't. I would actually be okay with a complete career change though to enable remote work.

A lot of my career has been spent in HR which I would think would lend itself to Remote Work. Mostly just a lot of legal stuff, forms and paperwork.
Posted by Traveler
I'm not late-I'm early for tomorrow
Member since Sep 2003
24263 posts
Posted on 11/27/20 at 9:33 am to
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You have to treat it like you are getting up to go to the office.


This right here. Glad you are back on track.
Posted by Saints83
Member since Nov 2020
31 posts
Posted on 11/27/20 at 9:34 am to
Let me ask you all this. Do you think I'm giving too much importance to the freedom aspect? The idea of being able to live anywhere and move around for extended periods of time due to not being tied to a physical position? Again as someone who has never done Remote Work I'm just trying to gain as many perspectives as possible. To me the freedom aspect is the main benefit of Remote Work.
This post was edited on 11/27/20 at 9:36 am
Posted by auwaterfowler
Alabama
Member since Jan 2020
1942 posts
Posted on 11/27/20 at 9:35 am to
I’d think it’s easier to get a blowie when working in an office than it is when working from home. But I have been working from home since 2002, so what do I know.
Posted by supadave3
Houston, TX
Member since Dec 2005
30262 posts
Posted on 11/27/20 at 9:35 am to
I absolutely hate it. I’m a social person and derived some satisfaction from going into an nice office every day, seeing pretty professional woman in the cafeteria even though I rarely talked to them, meeting my new teammates and shaking their hands when they started.

All of that is gone. I’m single with no kids, so I home alone. I get off work and I walk to the couch but it takes awhile to truly feel like I’m off work. I go for a long walk after work to ease the transition between work time and off time but it took awhile for me to incorporate that into being more than a fake it till ya make thing.

It did allow me to move cities which is something I couldn’t do before and was stuck in a town I hated. For my new job, I’m hoping it will be from an office or at least have a plan to get back to the office. As of now and my current employer, we’ll likely always be working from home from here on out.

We did a survey recently and I’m very much in the minority though. 80% love WFH.
This post was edited on 11/27/20 at 9:46 am
Posted by AUriptide
Member since Aug 2009
7339 posts
Posted on 11/27/20 at 9:38 am to
I would gladly trade my in office job for a equal paying work for home job, because I've grown tired of people in general.
Posted by adambomb
Member since Dec 2014
1462 posts
Posted on 11/27/20 at 9:41 am to
I'm someone who can get my work done in 1/2 of the working day. I love work from home but my office has us back in-person starting Dec 7th.
Posted by Saints83
Member since Nov 2020
31 posts
Posted on 11/27/20 at 9:42 am to
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I absolutely hate it. I’m a social person and derived some satisfaction from going into an nice office every day, seek g pretty professional woman in the cafeteria even though I rarely talked to them, meeting my new teammates and shaking their hands when they started.

All of that is gone. I’m single with no kids, so I home alone. I get off work and I walk to the couch but it takes awhile to truly feel like I’m off work. I go for a long walk after work to ease the transition between work time and off time but it took awhile for me to incorporate that into being more than a fake it till ya make thing.

It did allow me to move cities which is something I couldn’t do before and was stuck in a town I hated. For my new job, I’m hoping it will be from an office or at least have a plan to get back to the office. As of now and my current employer, we’ll likely always be working from home from here on out.

We did a survey recently and I’m very much in the minority though. 80% love WFH.


I could definitely see where WFH would pretty much eradicate the lines between work and personal life. And I could see it being bad in the ways where a manager or executive could call you asking you to look at something knowing your laptop is right there.

I don't have a big condo so when I was home and not doing remote work I would probably have to invest in converting a spare bedroom in a work office or in the very least significantly upgrading the desk in my living room.

Like you I am also single with no kids. The whole Covid-19 crisis has been a blessing and a curse. I'm the type who can easily zone out on the world for a few days but now even I've started to miss social interaction (in general, not work) and I'll admit I do worry that my social skills have started to degrade a little.

I think the WFH experience for single people with no kids is radically different than the WFH experience for married people and/or people with kids.
Posted by supadave3
Houston, TX
Member since Dec 2005
30262 posts
Posted on 11/27/20 at 9:44 am to
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DONT. Not saying you need to be clean shaven or dress business casual in your house, but put yourself together to some degree. Stay on top of your shite,


Good keep points. I get up earlier than I have to do to no commute and having to get dressed, but I make it a point to shite, shower, and shave. Sit on my front porch amd drink coffee and personally, I pray for about 10 minutes for my gratitude to still have a job, although I dislike it. That all helps me a bit.

I miss my morning and afternoon sports talk shows though.

My team has performed better than I would have predicted. I was close minded and absolutely wrong about how we would perform while working from home. As a team, we got better. I think I became worse for it though.
Posted by Shenanigans
Spring Hill, TN
Member since Nov 2012
2394 posts
Posted on 11/27/20 at 9:44 am to
Been WFH/Remote exclusively since April of 2016.

It took me about a month or so to truly get into the swing of things once I started, but now that I’ve gotten so accustomed to it, I don’t know that I could ever go back into the office full-time.

I don’t work much while I travel though - maybe take slightly longer visits to see my folks or in-laws and work a day or two from their houses, but for the most part, I just work from my home office and take vacations like a typical in-person employee.
Posted by Floyd Dawg
Silver Creek, GA
Member since Jul 2018
3905 posts
Posted on 11/27/20 at 9:45 am to
I'm a permanent WFH as I'm a OTR sales rep. I've done it for the last 20 years. Currently cover parts of GA, AL, and FL, but have covered an area as big as 13 states.

My schedule varies enough that I'm on the road in a hotel 2 weeks, then home for a week. IT works well for me and I have flexibility to switch if I need to, such as when my wife (no pics) has to travel for her job, which isn't often.
Posted by Saints83
Member since Nov 2020
31 posts
Posted on 11/27/20 at 9:46 am to
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I'm someone who can get my work done in 1/2 of the working day. I love work from home but my office has us back in-person starting Dec 7th.


I'm sorry to hear that. Your company isn't offering any options? Even a hybrid option where you work some days in the office and some days WFH?

I think a lot of companies don't realize how much WFH has changed the employee mentality. I think companies like yours that don't try to accommodate that will end up losing a lot of talent.

Have you considered looking at new opportunities?
Posted by themasterpater
I travel
Member since Sep 2014
1342 posts
Posted on 11/27/20 at 9:47 am to
I get it, but have you ever tried nomad life? Fun at first, feel like a ghost after a while. Takes a certain type, nothing wrong with it. I think the value would be more in visiting CA or NY or wherever for a week or two without having to take vacay, but after a while you will probably want some form of a home base.
Posted by Tigersonfire
Pville
Member since Oct 2018
3027 posts
Posted on 11/27/20 at 9:50 am to
This “pandemic “ is changing our world in so many ways that people don’t realize. Refineries are shutting down because this is a “reason” to go green. And on and on. We are going to be in a depression by the end of next year and now we have dumb and dumber in charge. We are so fricked it’s not even funny.
Posted by Saints83
Member since Nov 2020
31 posts
Posted on 11/27/20 at 9:51 am to
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I get it, but have you ever tried nomad life? Fun at first, feel like a ghost after a while. Takes a certain type, nothing wrong with it. I think the value would be more in visiting CA or NY or wherever for a week or two without having to take vacay, but after a while you will probably want some form of a home base.


In some ways the whole "feel like a ghost" mentality both excites and worries me. I definitely think the nomad lifestyle leads you more likely to just feel forgotten but I think there's something invigorating about it. Obviously as someone with a traditional job I never had the opportunity to even think about living a nomad lifestyle but Covid-19 has potentially provided that opportunity.

I'm an extreme introvert who doesn't open up to people unless I know and trust them. Then I can talk someone's ear off, lol. I've never been the type who needed a big family or a huge friend group. I'm naturally a loner by heart. I will say I would like to get married at some point but I've also accepted that it will probably never happen. Being a loner doesn't help you meet women and I've never been much of a ladies man to begin with.

I'm not saying I would do the whole nomad thing year around or for the rest of my life. But for a few years at least I think it would be invigorating.
This post was edited on 11/27/20 at 9:54 am
Posted by Vote4MikeAck504
Go Cocks!
Member since Mar 2019
3098 posts
Posted on 11/27/20 at 9:51 am to
I’m for it.
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