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Thoughts on Neighborhood Covenants/Housing Authorities?
Posted on 7/27/17 at 10:36 am
Posted on 7/27/17 at 10:36 am
There are some instances where I view them as valid such as if I lived on a country club with common areas such as a pool and/or golf course, but by and large, I find the idea ridiculous that in many areas, you can be taken to civil court because you had a pink flamingo in your front yard.
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Posted on 7/27/17 at 10:39 am to BulldogXero
I'd never move into an area that has one.
They are almost exclusively run by stupid busybody morons who love to exercise their authority.
Most of what they do has zero positive affect on property value.
But, if you sign the agreement, then that's on you.
They are almost exclusively run by stupid busybody morons who love to exercise their authority.
Most of what they do has zero positive affect on property value.
But, if you sign the agreement, then that's on you.
Posted on 7/27/17 at 10:41 am to BulldogXero
Are you referring to HOAs? Yeah they suck; and yes I live in one.
Posted on 7/27/17 at 10:42 am to BulldogXero
Posted on 7/27/17 at 10:44 am to Wtodd
I live in one. I can see that they could have positive effects if they were enforced correctly. My biggest peeve with them is the selective enforcement of rules. Board members in mine are currently in violation of rules that they enforce on SOME of the other residents. WTF?
Posted on 7/27/17 at 10:49 am to Boudreaux35
I don't live in an area with one but I could see the benefit. If someone comes in and parks a trailer next to your nice house and never cuts the grass and raises goats, I'm sure you'd want one then.
I prefer to just to have enough land between me and potential neighbors to act as a buffer.
I prefer to just to have enough land between me and potential neighbors to act as a buffer.
Posted on 7/27/17 at 10:53 am to BulldogXero
I live in one and while I haven't had a problem with the HOA specifically the people who live in my neighborhood are just fricking morons. They will call the HOA over bird crap being on the playground. One lady on my street petitioned the HOA to have only our street have a 10mph speed limit signed installed. She threatens to call the sheriff on speeders. Telling you we have some fricking wackos.
Posted on 7/27/17 at 10:58 am to Wtodd
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Are you referring to HOAs? Yeah they suck; and yes I live in one.
I don't have a HOA, but I do have a covenant. I wouldn't say that knowing about it ahead of time would have prevented me from buying the house, but it was never mentioned to me by the real estate agent. There is a document buried under a pile of paperwork that says the property is subject to a covenant, but I don't recall that verbiage at closing.
I still think they are a load of crap, but most of the restrictions are sensible except for the fact that I cannot have any signs posted out front of the house (so no campaign advertisements or local football team support), I cannot have garage sales, and for some reason, they get pissy when you park cars on the grass and everyone has to park on the side of the road (almost every house is a one car garage). This leads to awful congestion on the roads of the neighborhood, and someone's car is going to get hit when some guy comes across a curve not paying attention. I have a corner lot, and any time I've had company, I've instructed them to park in my yard under a tree. That's really the only time I suppose I've come into direct conflict with the convenant and will continue to do so until someone complains I guess.
This post was edited on 7/27/17 at 10:59 am
Posted on 7/27/17 at 11:03 am to Boudreaux35
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I live in one.
I used to live in one. Our neighborhood took it over from the developer that was a POS. We took it over and I got on the board by running on the platform that I would keep it from getting stupid. I was never opposed and was able to handle most issues that came up with a cup of coffee and a conversation.
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I can see that they could have positive effects if they were enforced correctly.
Exactly right. The neighborhood above had two large ponds each with their own earthen dam. The largest jobs we encountered were keeping the roads in good shape, management of the ponds, and street lights. By the time I stepped down due to law school the ponds were producing some damn good fish, the roads were either freshly paved or patches were taken care of, and the lights and common areas added to the overall appeal of the neighborhood.
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My biggest peeve with them is the selective enforcement of rules. Board members in mine are currently in violation of rules that they enforce on SOME of the other residents.
With what I know about property law now (AL) I could have a field day with power hungry a$$hats like this. The thing about covenants is that they go both ways. The HOA can compel compliance, but the members of the HOA can also compel enforcement actions by the HOA.
Posted on 7/27/17 at 11:09 am to BulldogXero
Prepare to be berated by people who know/love their property so much that they let other people tell them what to do with it.
Personally I think its ridiculous to buy a plot of land and then hand over your rights to someone else (while paying them
).
Personally I think its ridiculous to buy a plot of land and then hand over your rights to someone else (while paying them
).
Posted on 7/27/17 at 11:17 am to BulldogXero
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I cannot have garage sales
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can't park cars on the grass
These sounds like positives.
But on a whole I wouldn't want to live in a neighborhood with HOA restrictions.
Posted on 7/27/17 at 11:20 am to BulldogXero
I think they make sense for two reasons:
1) They allow for community amenities that the local government may not be able to provide, such as walking trails, pools, signage, common areas, police patrols, etc.
2) What one person does with their own property can affect others. Good people don't want to live next to trashballs, who park on their lawn, don't cut the grass, keep boats on the front lawn, etc.
The problem is when these groups go overboard, which happens roughly 100 percent of the time. I don't care if someone puts their trash can out at noon the day before trash day because they will be out of town. I don't care if someone puts up a yard sign for a politician. I don't care if someone puts a pink flamingo in their yard or a flag in their garden. These are not things that affect value and enjoyment.
If these groups used just a lick of common sense, few people would have problems with them.
But these groups tend to be run by people with no real power in their own lives, so they use these groups as a chance to exercise power.
1) They allow for community amenities that the local government may not be able to provide, such as walking trails, pools, signage, common areas, police patrols, etc.
2) What one person does with their own property can affect others. Good people don't want to live next to trashballs, who park on their lawn, don't cut the grass, keep boats on the front lawn, etc.
The problem is when these groups go overboard, which happens roughly 100 percent of the time. I don't care if someone puts their trash can out at noon the day before trash day because they will be out of town. I don't care if someone puts up a yard sign for a politician. I don't care if someone puts a pink flamingo in their yard or a flag in their garden. These are not things that affect value and enjoyment.
If these groups used just a lick of common sense, few people would have problems with them.
But these groups tend to be run by people with no real power in their own lives, so they use these groups as a chance to exercise power.
Posted on 7/27/17 at 11:24 am to Palmetto08
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These sounds like positives.
Not that I plan on having one, but in my youth, my grandmother would have yard/garage sales about once a month during the warm months of the year. She would accumulate things just for the sole purpose of re-selling them via yard sales.
Parking on the grass by virtue of how the neighborhood is designed, makes more sense for me than contributing to road congestion by having guests park on the side of the street. Most residents probably can't fit a car in their front yard, but I could theoretically fit 4-5. The driveway isn't wide enough to accommodate more than a single car and it's only a one car garage.
This post was edited on 7/27/17 at 11:27 am
Posted on 7/27/17 at 11:26 am to BulldogXero
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but in my youth, my grandmother would have yard/garage sales about once a month during the warm months of the year. She would accumulate things just for the sole purpose of re-selling them via yard sales.
A lot of that is done via the buy/sell groups on facebook.
Posted on 7/27/17 at 11:27 am to BulldogXero
A necessary evil with so many Americans scared to take back their old neighborhoods that are now gang infested.
Posted on 7/27/17 at 11:28 am to LSUFanHouston
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A lot of that is done via the buy/sell groups on facebook.
True. I don't plan on having a yard sale, but I have an appreciation for them and don't like someone telling me I can't have them.
Posted on 7/27/17 at 11:28 am to BulldogXero
HOAs are basically insurance against shitty neighbors. It can certainly be worth it.
Posted on 7/27/17 at 11:30 am to LSUFanHouston
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The problem is when these groups go overboard, which happens roughly 100 percent of the time. I don't care if someone puts their trash can out at noon the day before trash day because they will be out of town. I don't care if someone puts up a yard sign for a politician. I don't care if someone puts a pink flamingo in their yard or a flag in their garden. These are not things that affect value and enjoyment.
THIS X100 is my issue with the typical HOA. I am going to be out of town for business and my trash can sits out ONCE for two days. Who gives a shite? But no. My last HOA would fire off a nasty letter postmarked the day that the can was out. If I was doing it on a weekly basis, then get after me. But one time? Come on.
Posted on 7/27/17 at 11:34 am to BulldogXero
It depends on the area and the extreme to which the HOA operates. I can handle a low key HOA if they're simply doing things like trying to keep the neighborhood clean and to provide upkeep on amenities.
If you're going to tell me my blinds have to be eggshell white for "uniformity" then they can frick off.
If you're going to tell me my blinds have to be eggshell white for "uniformity" then they can frick off.
Posted on 7/27/17 at 11:35 am to BulldogXero
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I find the idea ridiculous that in many areas, you can be taken to civil court because you had a pink flamingo in your front yard.
Freedom of Contract
This post was edited on 7/27/17 at 11:36 am
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