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re: Those with boys in Cub Scouts, have a few questions

Posted on 8/28/24 at 6:41 am to
Posted by Deplorable Duke
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Posted by SquatchDawg
Cohutta Wilderness
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Posted on 8/28/24 at 6:54 am to
Both of my kids did Cub Scouts with one good experience and one bad. My oldest had a great group and everyone got along. Youngest’s troop was full of special needs kids so we didn’t stay long. It all depends on the kids and leaders.

Also, note that you’ll need to be able to tolerate the other dads because you’ll be spending a lot of time together.
Posted by Tempratt
Member since Oct 2013
14892 posts
Posted on 8/28/24 at 6:59 am to
Watch out for undercover nambla members.

As woke as the scouts have become I would not be at all surprised to see some of the staff be part of that perv org. nambla I mean
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 8/28/24 at 7:05 am to
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Local den/pack has women leaders, and they have boys of their own. Is this common these days?


My mom was my cub scout leader back in the 80s/90s

My daughter was in cub scouts and is now in all girl troupe. It's a really good group of girls and the scout leader is awesome.

Local leadership is really going to be the main factor. We are lucky that we have awesome leaders.

My 11 year old loves it. Going camping this weekend.
Posted by holmesbr
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Posted on 8/28/24 at 7:38 am to
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Posted by LilDeuceCoupe
Hooker, OK
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 8/28/24 at 7:39 am to
My son was fine with it as it began. It is very dependent upon the leadership. Our pack got very woke and then included girls.
He quickly lost interest as it also conflicted with sports.
His dork Dad was in it for Pinewood Derby. Had too much fun with that.
Posted by SteelerBravesDawg
Member since Sep 2020
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Posted on 8/28/24 at 7:40 am to
I have a daughter in Cub Scouts and she loves it. She will be a Weeblo this year.

During excursions/camping, girls are with girls and boys are with boys and adults have to be present.

Leaders also have to go through sexual harassment classes.
Posted by SteelerBravesDawg
Member since Sep 2020
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Posted on 8/28/24 at 7:41 am to
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Our pack then included girls.

Don't understand the consternation over allowing girls to be scouts. Our troop has girls and there is no issue.

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It is very dependent upon the leadership

This is absolutely true.

Posted by SmelvinRat
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Member since Oct 2015
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Posted on 8/28/24 at 7:44 am to
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i was a cub scout till i found out what brownies taste like


Needed a good laugh on the ride in this morning...
Posted by NoBoDawg
Member since Feb 2014
2016 posts
Posted on 8/28/24 at 7:47 am to
Ditto with the Trail Life baw. I’m checking it out now for my Son. It’s what the Cub/Boy Scouts used to be.
Posted by VernonPLSUfan
Leesville, La.
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 8/28/24 at 7:53 am to
My mother volunteered to be a pack leader when I was young and interested in it, no men did so she took it on. Though we didn't do cool stuff like hiking or outdoor stuff she did teach the basics from the handbook. And our snacks at meeting were off the hook. Then one meeting my dad had to take over for my mom, he was an attorney and worked late a lot as to why he didn't volunteer. Anyway, come snack time he took all of us to the local burger joint for our snack time. Put mom behind the 8 ball after that.
Posted by DownSouthTiger
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Posted on 8/28/24 at 7:53 am to
I joined as a kid but I thought it was boring actually and dropped out. I always thought my Dad took me to do more interesting things on our own. Instead of being in the Scouts he took me camping, hunting, fishing and we did things like build birdhouses together and enjoyed going bird watching. If your son likes those things you can just do it with him.
Posted by Bayou
Boudin, LA
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Posted on 8/28/24 at 7:54 am to
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daughter in Cub Scouts

Posted by Darth_Vader
A galaxy far, far away
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 8/28/24 at 8:03 am to
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My son showed interest in it, and I want to encourage him but at the same time know what I’m getting in to.

Do your boys like it? How involved are you?


My son is grown now, but he was in Cub Scouts from 2-5 grades. As for my involvement, I was his den leader the first year and pack leader until he quit after 5 grade for other activities. He enjoyed it until he kinda grew out of it and gravitated towards things like sports as many boys do.

The key is a leader who keeps the pack running in a well organized and structured manner. This takes time and a lot of planning of activities and such. Along with this, it also requires someone who holds the boys to a standard in their actions and even things like the appearance of their uniform. Own thing I did was infuse the boys of our pack with a sense of pride and obligation to their uniform and the pack. I guess it’s from my background in the army, but I’m a believer that a unit benefits from its members being proud of who they are and what they represent. The boys loved it and during my time as pack leader membership more than doubled.

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Local den/pack has women leaders, and they have boys of their own. Is this common these days?


Sadly this is common now. They do the best they can. But they can’t teach boys to be a man. And they tend to baby them. Boys need a positive male influence. And no matter how they try, women simply by their nature can’t provide it. We need more dads to step up and take leadership roles. It’s what we were made for.


This post was edited on 8/28/24 at 8:04 am
Posted by Dam Guide
Member since Sep 2005
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Posted on 8/28/24 at 8:07 am to
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Local den/pack has women leaders, and they have boys of their own. Is this common these days? I was in cub scouts 30 years ago and men were leaders then. Dads are still involved at the den level, and dads are also leaders at the pack level.


Den mothers have been a thing for a long damn time. Well before the 80s.

BSA is now Scouting America though and moving toward being a family organization. This is following what the Scouting movement worldwide has done. The original scouting in England has been coed for a long damn time.

Scouting is great for kids, but like anything its all dependent on the group you join. Each pack and troop operate very differently from other packs and troops.

I highly suggest you visit several packs and go see their troops as well in you local area. I recently moved my daughter from one pack to another because the change in leadership was unacceptable to me and the troop she would move into would offer a far better experience. They just got back from Portugal and Germany and was always doing lots of trips and adventures. The troop she would have been moved into before barely did anything.

Each pack and troop have their own charter org, so you can get more liberal groups or heavily conservative groups based on the charter org that covers the troop/pack. If you are catholic, look for packs and troops run by catholic churches for example.

I love scouts, I'm an assistant cubmaster for our new pack and love the opportunities it's given for bonding with my daughter that not really any other organization offers. We aren't sports people and GSUSA doesn't really let dads take part in it. There is also plenty of room to still do boys only stuff. Troops are still segregated til next year between boys and girls. Cubs can also be segregated if they want to operate different girls and boys packs. There isn't a requirement that it has to be open to girls. You can make it what you want to make it.
This post was edited on 8/28/24 at 8:12 am
Posted by Broham
Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 8/28/24 at 8:10 am to
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Cub Scouts

GAY
Posted by cajungoalie
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2008
687 posts
Posted on 8/28/24 at 8:18 am to
My three boys were involved in Cub Scouts, for 7 or 8 years. As others have said, its not a babysitting service, all parents were involved all the time in my experience. We had zero girls and zero female leaders.

Get involved, I did. Became a Den Leader. Didn't want to but it was rewardiing spending time with my boys. Camping and Pine Wood Derby and Rocket Day are highlights.

Don't listen to the mouth breathers who have had nothing to do with it. Ultimately none of them chose to go to boy scouts, but we have pretty great memories of the scouts.
Posted by Dam Guide
Member since Sep 2005
16523 posts
Posted on 8/28/24 at 8:18 am to
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Sadly this is common now. They do the best they can. But they can’t teach boys to be a man. And they tend to baby them. Boys need a positive male influence. And no matter how they try, women simply by their nature can’t provide it. We need more dads to step up and take leadership roles. It’s what we were made for.


Den mothers were added in the 30s and almost all leadership positions were open to women by the 70s. It's not really a new thing in the slightest.
This post was edited on 8/28/24 at 8:20 am
Posted by Joe_Dirte
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Member since Feb 2019
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Posted on 8/28/24 at 8:22 am to
my son was in until 5th or 6th grade I think. I was very involved and it was a good experience. I think your experience will depend on leadership. for us, it was worth it.
Posted by jrowla2
Colorado
Member since Jan 2007
4168 posts
Posted on 8/28/24 at 8:24 am to
From my experience, it was women leadership in cub scouts and then more men in Boy Scouts.
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