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re: This Ulvade police press conference is awful

Posted on 5/27/22 at 12:29 pm to
Posted by lsuhunt555
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Member since Nov 2008
38963 posts
Posted on 5/27/22 at 12:29 pm to
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Even if all the kids that he shot were already shot by the time the cops arrived, getting them medical attention ASAP is then the next priority. That's where lives could have been saved


Bingo.

They should be prosecuted for denying someone life saving medical attention. If those same fricking cops denied an inmate life saving medical attention they'd be prosecuted, this is no different. frick each and every one of those cock suckers.
Posted by DmitriKaramazov
Member since Nov 2015
5554 posts
Posted on 5/27/22 at 12:30 pm to

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Students who were in the classroom with the gunman called 911 several times, including a lengthy call during which some shooting and other sounds of the attack could be heard, according to Steven McCraw, director of the Texas Department of Public Safety.

Mr. McCraw described the calls this way at a news conference Friday:

A caller identified — I will not say her name, but she was in room 112 — called 911 at 12:03. The duration of the call, was 1 minute and 23 seconds. She identified herself and whispered she’s in room 112.

At 12:10, she called back, in room 112, advised there are multiple dead.

At 12:13, again, she called on the phone.

Again at 12:16, she’s called back and said there was eight to nine students alive.

At 12:19, a 911 call was made, and another person in room 111 called. I will not say her name. She hung up when another student told her to hang up.

At 12:21, you could hear over the 911 call that three shots were fired.

At 12:36, a 911 call, it lasted for 21 seconds. The initial caller called back. The student-child called back, and was told to stay on the line and be very quiet. She told 911 that he shot the door.

At approximately 12:43 and 12:47, she asked 911 to please send the police now.

At 12:46, she said she not could not—— that she could hear the police next door.

At 12:50, shots are fired, they can be heard over the 911 call.

At 12:51, it’s very loud, and sounds like officers are moving children out of the room. At that time, the first child that called was outside before the call cuts off"
This post was edited on 5/28/22 at 6:25 pm
Posted by Wabbit7
Member since Aug 2018
2266 posts
Posted on 5/27/22 at 12:31 pm to
These cops need to be hung in the street, let the parents of victims do the honors. Just absolutely incomprehensible actions taken here.
Posted by lsuhunt555
Teakwood Village Breh
Member since Nov 2008
38963 posts
Posted on 5/27/22 at 12:32 pm to
That's tough to read. If any of those kids were mind, I'd be doing some Girard Butler Law Abiding Citizen shite with these officers.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
119977 posts
Posted on 5/27/22 at 12:33 pm to
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Over 150 cops were on the scene and did nothing while he murdered kids for an hour


This better not be true. What the frick. Over 150? What a bunch of fricking pussy cowards. 150 to 1. That better not be true.
Posted by Vidic
Member since Jan 2010
9483 posts
Posted on 5/27/22 at 12:34 pm to
They said it was according to this guy

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Students who were in the classroom with the gunman called 911 several times, including a lengthy call during which some shooting and other sounds of the attack could be heard, according to Steven McCraw, director of the Texas Department of Public Safety.
Posted by cable
Member since Oct 2018
9735 posts
Posted on 5/27/22 at 12:34 pm to
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This better not be true. What the frick. Over 150? What a bunch of fricking pussy cowards. 150 to 1. That better not be true.


5-1 should be enough - hell even 2-1 - these people are supposed to be trained.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
465159 posts
Posted on 5/27/22 at 12:34 pm to
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Don’t know if the courts are going to be able to provide civil or criminal remedies for the families and you wonder if some of them won’t take things into their own hands with the individual police officers.

I pity the union rep/attorney who has to represent the teacher responsible for all of these deaths.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
119977 posts
Posted on 5/27/22 at 12:35 pm to
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yes, I'm sure 150 included all LEOs around the scene after it unfolded


Parkland had 5 or 6 cowards (drawing a blank if the security guard counted among the 5 cowering outside), and this 150? I can’t think of a bigger act of cowardice than this. 150 to 1.
Posted by NorthTxLSU
Dallas to Austin to Houston
Member since Nov 2018
13980 posts
Posted on 5/27/22 at 12:36 pm to
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“Don’t worry, give up your guns and you’ll have the police to protect you” Meanwhile the police…..


very interesting spin
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
119977 posts
Posted on 5/27/22 at 12:36 pm to
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They were ordered not to go in.


Yeah, because “Just Following Orders” really ages well. Go frick yourself if that’s acceptable reasoning from you.
Posted by TexasTiger08
Member since Oct 2006
29004 posts
Posted on 5/27/22 at 12:37 pm to
Uvalde


I’ve seen this spelled about a dozen different ways already, and it’s plastered all over the internet and TV.

Presser still sucks
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
119977 posts
Posted on 5/27/22 at 12:37 pm to
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5-1 should be enough - hell even 2-1 - these people are supposed to be trained.


One on one is enough for me when you’ve got school children on the line.
Posted by Vidic
Member since Jan 2010
9483 posts
Posted on 5/27/22 at 12:38 pm to
What about 19?

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The authorities now say that local officers first entered the school at 11:35, two minutes after the gunman, and that there were 19 officers in the hallway by 12:03 p.m., but that they did not breach the door and kill the gunman until 12:50, even as they continued to hear him firing.
Posted by Lonnie Utah
Utah!
Member since Jul 2012
32135 posts
Posted on 5/27/22 at 12:38 pm to
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Don’t know if the courts are going to be able to provide civil or criminal remedies for the families and you wonder if some of them won’t take things into their own hands with the individual police officers.


Texas tort law prevents it. (I looked it up after my post).
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
465159 posts
Posted on 5/27/22 at 12:39 pm to
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Yeah, because “Just Following Orders” really ages well. Go frick yourself if that’s acceptable reasoning from you.

There is a list of explanations that could somewhat respond to lots of the issues the internet is bringing up.

Like the parent example from yesterday. I understand from an emotional level why parents align with her behavior, but she really could have made things worse. There is so much confusion going on in these situations that permitting more is going to be detrimental.

But they haven't phrased it in those terms really. They seem to just be going with the "wW had a plan...turns out it sucked. Sorry." memo.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
465159 posts
Posted on 5/27/22 at 12:39 pm to
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Texas tort law prevents it.

nods in Mike Leach
Posted by SlickRickerz
Member since Oct 2018
2290 posts
Posted on 5/27/22 at 12:39 pm to
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“Just Following Orders”

They obviously were, as no one went inside the school. They were obviously just following orders of the command. They were even “following orders” to detain anyone that tried.
This post was edited on 5/27/22 at 12:42 pm
Posted by Swoozie
Member since Jan 2021
1256 posts
Posted on 5/27/22 at 12:40 pm to
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I heard a clip earlier where the White House said they were "going to be patient for all the facts to come out and don't think there should be a DOJ investigation at this time". That's mighty different than their usual tune when a white cop shoots (justifiably in the vast majority of incidents) a black person. The DOJ would be in the Uvalde PD building today if one of their guys shot a minority.

Exactly. Also compare this to their immediate stance on border patrol using “whips” on illegals.
This post was edited on 5/27/22 at 12:41 pm
Posted by toosleaux
Stuck in Baton Rouge traffic
Member since Dec 2007
9428 posts
Posted on 5/27/22 at 12:40 pm to
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I find it really strange that we've had several these take place where the local police seemingly allowed it to happen


It’s called cowardice.
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