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re: this is mind blowing
Posted on 9/5/14 at 9:01 am to DirtyMikeandtheBoys
Posted on 9/5/14 at 9:01 am to DirtyMikeandtheBoys
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How can they make this map? I dont think we have seen this far?
Nah...I think this is a more precise map, but the entire thing has been mapped in 3D for a while. Check out this video done by Neil DeGrasse Tyson's museum in NYC. It's about 6 minutes long, but it's incredible.
The Known Universe
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Posted on 9/5/14 at 9:02 am to Maderan
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therefore the average population of the Universe is zero, and so the total population must be zero.
That only holds if there is no such thing as negative population!
Posted on 9/5/14 at 9:24 am to GeauxTigerTM
Good stuff.
Look nothing like that bullshite in the OP
Look nothing like that bullshite in the OP
Posted on 9/5/14 at 9:31 am to bamarep
The greatest proof of life existing else where in the Universe, is.....
Earth!
If Humans and all the other billions of animals on Earth are a live and been kicking for hundreds of millions of years, then no doubt about it, there is other life elsewhere in the universe.
Hell a bunch of stuff here on Earth suggests that aliens have already visited Earth. I would even argue that life is abundant in the Universe. I mean, we are all made of star dust, so why couldn't it happen elsewhere?
Earth!
If Humans and all the other billions of animals on Earth are a live and been kicking for hundreds of millions of years, then no doubt about it, there is other life elsewhere in the universe.
Hell a bunch of stuff here on Earth suggests that aliens have already visited Earth. I would even argue that life is abundant in the Universe. I mean, we are all made of star dust, so why couldn't it happen elsewhere?
Posted on 9/5/14 at 9:48 am to Tiger Ryno
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These guys are almost certain there is life out there outside of earth but they also are 100% sure there is no God..
Look at this in a completely unbiased manner.
Using the images and data collected over the years, apply math and probability, it's not that difficult to imagine that there is other forms of intelligent life.
When it comes to God, standard scientific principles can't be used. Why? Because absolutely nothing exist for them to study.
There's no images, no data has ever been collected, no proof of existence, no artifacts. There is absolutely nothing that you can plug into an equation to show the likelyhood of existence.
People will argue that the Bible is proof. Again, I ask you to look at the Bible in an unbiased manner.
The Bible is the culmination of scriptures and writings from humans. These are people who were far less advanced than we are today. A lot of things happen today that we think nothing of. Those same events took place back then as well and they had no other way to justify or explain the event.
Try to imagine knowing absolutely nothing more than survival skills and experiencing an earthquake. No one around you has any idea what just happened or why, there's no recorded history at this point in time. How are you supposed to justify the event? Someone says it was God, that makes more sense to you than anything else you can imagine so you follow suit.
It's this same mindset and lack of scientific knowledge that wrote these scriptures back then.
To top it off, someone else put them together and created what is known as the Bible. It's also well documented that this same person or group of people also omitted numerous scriptures that offer a conflicting view of the ones that were placed in the bible.
Look up the missing scriptures that were recently found in Turkey. It was written by a disciple and states that Jesus was not the son of God, he was merely a prophet. I think it's clear why this was never put into the Bible when they selected what was going in.
Look at things from this standpoint and it's not that difficult for scientist to say they are certain God doesn't exist.
Show then some tangible data, they will study it and can then put a number on the probability of existence.
I'm not saying I do or don't believe in God, just stating why scientist are able to make their statements on it.
Posted on 9/5/14 at 10:11 am to BrotherEsau
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I think I'm going home early to get high and look at the sky.
Do so and watch the netflix documentary series "planets"
Posted on 9/5/14 at 10:17 am to dawgsjw
Good point about earth, and I'm not saying there isn't life out there, but is it that hard to fathom that for all the cosmic factors lining up perfectly for earth to sustain life that this astronomical probability has us alone in the universe?
Just playing devils advocate.
Just playing devils advocate.
Posted on 9/5/14 at 10:23 am to blight
We are probably not alone, but the time and space of the universe is so vast that we might as well be alone.
Posted on 9/5/14 at 10:26 am to Tiger Ryno
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These guys are almost certain there is life out there outside of earth but they also are 100% sure there is no God..
I think you will find that most scientists think that life probably exists somewhere and that God probably doesn't. That's the most logical conclusion based on the evidence we currently have.
Posted on 9/5/14 at 10:28 am to SidewalkDawg
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These guys are almost certain there is life out there outside of earth but they also are 100% sure there is no God..
And they can't prove either one.
Posted on 9/5/14 at 10:32 am to Tiger Ryno
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but they also are 100% sure there is no God
Which gods are you referring to? Humans believe in many gods. If you are referring to a creator then most scientist would probably say that there is no evidence either way. I dont think any would say with 100% certainty there is no creator.
This post was edited on 9/5/14 at 10:35 am
Posted on 9/5/14 at 10:36 am to blight
Posted on 9/5/14 at 10:39 am to engvol
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Imagine if they were just making it up to get more and more grant money
They are.
Posted on 9/5/14 at 2:14 pm to 82fumanchu
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Define "life" though. Sure there has to be some form of bacteria, plants, basic life, etc. on other planets but aliens and civilization I'm not so sure. Y'all ever think that as vast as the universe is, maybe the probability for earth to develop life as it has, the probability was 1 and astronomical/infinite odds?
The chance of you being alive are among those odds. Seriously think about it. You are 1 amongst the tens of billions of sperm your dad has produced as well as among the thousands of eggs your mother did. That probability of you forming are easily in the trillions. In essence, we've all won the lottery at one point by simply existing. Then add your parents, and their parents, and so on and so forth for millions of years, and the chances that you are alive are less than in the millions of trillions.
Posted on 9/5/14 at 2:23 pm to tigerbaittrick
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Does this mean these galaxies could one day collide, so to speak?
It's a fact that we will collide with our neighbor, the Andromedia Galaxy. It will be about 4 billion years from now, and really all it does is create a fantastic light show. Plus the sun will engulf our planet by then, so it's likely we have nothing to worry about.
Posted on 9/5/14 at 2:43 pm to OMLandshark
Even when our galaxies "collide", the chances of just two stars in the hundreds of billions of stars swarming among each other is extremely small because of the infinitesimal density of the galaxies. It would be kinda like the odds of shooting 2 shotguns in an arc facing each other from a mile away and having a tiny pellet from each shell collide. Ok I just made that example up in my head but that's what I would imagine.
Posted on 9/5/14 at 2:54 pm to OMLandshark
You're right about the chances of a person being alive today over the millions of other avenues that could have been and winning the lottery. I see that argument as more of a dichotomous key where, though there are millions of roads to chose, you have to chose one. That one road brings you to chose out of other millions of roads. Rinse. Repeat. x1million.
However, I see it that you and I and everyone else are products of this improbable sequence of choices, but we are an end product of these choices. And we will make the same choices with our end results picking up and carrying on the sequence. Always having some end result.
To me, earth sustaining life is more a product of the most random, extreme, almost impossible probability of clusterfrick things having to occur perfectly to happen.
I guess in short I see it as one having order and the other having absolutely no order.
However, I see it that you and I and everyone else are products of this improbable sequence of choices, but we are an end product of these choices. And we will make the same choices with our end results picking up and carrying on the sequence. Always having some end result.
To me, earth sustaining life is more a product of the most random, extreme, almost impossible probability of clusterfrick things having to occur perfectly to happen.
I guess in short I see it as one having order and the other having absolutely no order.
This post was edited on 9/5/14 at 2:56 pm
Posted on 9/5/14 at 3:00 pm to OMLandshark
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It will be about 4 billion years from now
Well then, frick 1999. Lets party like its 4,000,002,014!
Posted on 9/5/14 at 3:01 pm to 82fumanchu
This looks like nerves. Maybe we are just part of some larger being
Posted on 9/5/14 at 3:02 pm to tigerbaittrick
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Does this mean these galaxies could one day collide, so to speak?
Oh yeah! That would be a cool way to go out, or going through a black hole.
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