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re: This employee shortage isn't letting up

Posted on 4/20/22 at 11:49 am to
Posted by Klark Kent
Houston via BR
Member since Jan 2008
67051 posts
Posted on 4/20/22 at 11:49 am to
agreed. I can’t even remember if any of my close friends growing up didn’t have a summer job in high school.

for me, it was a part of a valuable life lesson. My Dad sat me down every summer after i got my first paycheck from my summer job. Then lined up all our families’ monthly bills. And would ask me, “on your current salary, can you afford a home? a car? gas? insurance? groceries? cable? utilities? what about hobbies or toys? No? Of course not, this is why you have to go get a degree and work your arse off son. OR you won’t be able to afford any level of comfort as an adult and you’ll always be broke as frick

not only did it teach responsibility and work ethic but was a dose of reality for a brainless little fricktard high school version of myself.
This post was edited on 4/20/22 at 11:52 am
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
28733 posts
Posted on 4/20/22 at 11:52 am to
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LOL, why do you retards always blame the accountants? It's the C Suite that makes those decisions, chief.

This board really has zero clue what accountants actually do but constantly blame the profession for shite it does not do.
I guess we've found an accountant.

I was not blaming the accountants, I was blaming the decision-makers who care more about the quarterly/annual figures than the next decade's.
Posted by jclem11
Neoliberal Shill
Member since Nov 2011
7913 posts
Posted on 4/20/22 at 12:04 pm to
Bruh you specifically said “bean counters” lmao.

It’s the C Suite that makes the decisions on hiring / firing / raises.

You are mad at the wrong people.
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
28733 posts
Posted on 4/20/22 at 12:10 pm to
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Bruh you specifically said “bean counters” lmao.
You think accountants are the only ones who count beans? "Bean counter" can refer to anyone involved in financial matters, and I'd say especially those who have control over them.
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It’s the C Suite that makes the decisions on hiring / firing / raises.
Yeah no shite. That's why I was referring to them.
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You are mad at the wrong people.
No, I am not. The only accountant I am mad at is you right now.
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
20591 posts
Posted on 4/20/22 at 12:54 pm to
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I was not blaming the accountants, I was blaming the decision-makers who care more about the quarterly/annual figures than the next decade's.


Because that's how decisions HAVE to be made at most companies. Most companies aren't Google or Apple printing money, most companies are worried about surviving through this quarter or this year. You can't screw your credit rating or your savings to maintain better employees than you have to have, at least most companies can't.

I'm not saying everyone does a great job. But in general, that statement of yours' is very ignorant.
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
279237 posts
Posted on 4/20/22 at 1:34 pm to
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for me, it was a part of a valuable life lesson. My Dad sat me down every summer after i got my first paycheck from my summer job. Then lined up all our families’ monthly bills. And would ask me, “on your current salary, can you afford a home? a car? gas? insurance? groceries? cable? utilities? what about hobbies or toys? No? Of course not, this is why you have to go get a degree and work your arse off son. OR you won’t be able to afford any level of comfort as an adult and you’ll always be broke as frick”

not only did it teach responsibility and work ethic but was a dose of reality for a brainless little fricktard high school version of myself.


What should kids do that don’t have a dad like yours. Or a dad at all?
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
28733 posts
Posted on 4/20/22 at 1:52 pm to
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Because that's how decisions HAVE to be made at most companies.
No they don't, that's just the old "wisdom".
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Most companies aren't Google or Apple printing money
Google and Apple have for a long time offered compensation that attracted and retained top talent. You think it goes the other way around, a company stumbles onto huge profits and then starts paying employees well? Amazon did it a different way, by ruthlessly engineering the human element out of the process and intensely focusing on customer satisfaction, but that's a different type of business.
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most companies are worried about surviving through this quarter or this year. You can't screw your credit rating or your savings to maintain better employees than you have to have, at least most companies can't.

I'm not saying everyone does a great job. But in general, that statement of yours' is very ignorant.
You have the exact mindset that I was talking about, you see employees as an expense that must be minimized rather than an asset that must be invested in to grow the business. Not all businesses can follow this model, but this thread is about service industries which absolutely need to invest in their employees.
Posted by Screaming Viking
Member since Jul 2013
4514 posts
Posted on 4/20/22 at 2:12 pm to
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Why would you do that?


i do not do this to mislead anyone...even though that is the way it seems.

It is done to be sure that we do not attract the wrong people. not one person has been upset by getting this information after they start with us.
Posted by Eurocat
Member since Apr 2004
15084 posts
Posted on 4/20/22 at 2:12 pm to
That's the problem companies who feel they have to "make it through this quarter".

I think this has to do with corporate bonuses or nothing more.

Instead of tightening the belt in crisis mode constantly why not do it early and softly, save some cash up, and then have a bit of a cushion if things go bad?

Companies I find often pass up on opportunities to solve balance sheet issues when things are good, putting it off to when things are bad and that ends up making things much worse than they have to be.
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
50193 posts
Posted on 4/20/22 at 2:40 pm to
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They are opening three restaurants in our town. Fighting for the same small pool of workers.


They are dumb unless all the help is family.
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
50193 posts
Posted on 4/20/22 at 2:43 pm to
In 2019 things weren't like this and we had an extremely low unemployment rate.
Posted by olgoi khorkhoi
priapism survivor
Member since May 2011
14919 posts
Posted on 4/20/22 at 2:48 pm to
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Where is everyone?





I'm guessing what happened is a lot of the boomer generation is dropping out of the work force due to age or covid or whatever and declining birth rates since that generation have caused a labor shortage. Add to that the sweet benefits for staying home which may or may not be still going on, depending on which state you're in, and you have a problem made worse, which seems to be the one thing government is good at.
Posted by HooDooWitch
TD Bronze member
Member since Sep 2009
10280 posts
Posted on 4/20/22 at 2:57 pm to
Friend on mine is probation parole for nearly 20 years. Not an easy gig. You have to deal with a lot of bad rough people, not everyone is cut out for it.
Posted by TigerDude80
METRY
Member since Nov 2007
1746 posts
Posted on 4/20/22 at 3:23 pm to
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Not Outback but a very good guess.


Boulevard American Bistro?
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
40221 posts
Posted on 4/20/22 at 3:25 pm to
There are few million Ukrainians sitting in camps in Eastern Europe who would love to come work for less than minimum wage plus tips.
Posted by TBoy
Kalamazoo
Member since Dec 2007
23923 posts
Posted on 4/20/22 at 3:34 pm to
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There are few million Ukrainians sitting in camps in Eastern Europe who would love to come work for less than minimum wage plus tips.

The Ukrainians are reaching our southern border and already qualify for asylum status. This is happening now.
Posted by Klark Kent
Houston via BR
Member since Jan 2008
67051 posts
Posted on 4/20/22 at 4:02 pm to
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already qualify for asylum status.


ohh, i didn’t know this mattered to you or your administration. i thought it was just whoever from wherever, no?
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
40221 posts
Posted on 4/20/22 at 5:30 pm to
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There are few million Ukrainians sitting in camps in Eastern Europe who would love to come work for less than minimum wage plus tips. The Ukrainians are reaching our southern border and already qualify for asylum status. This is happening now.


Send some to western Pa. The bars and restaurants need servers that aren’t ugly.
Posted by CatfishJohn
Member since Jun 2020
13964 posts
Posted on 4/20/22 at 5:32 pm to
Sat on a call with a couple of investment banks and their analysts were saying the peak is likely middle of the Summer.

So yeah, it's not getting better.
Posted by Marshhen
Port Eads
Member since Nov 2018
674 posts
Posted on 4/20/22 at 5:37 pm to
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