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re: This baw got a 1590 out 1600 on SAT
Posted on 6/8/23 at 5:15 pm to JustDooIt
Posted on 6/8/23 at 5:15 pm to JustDooIt
quote:that happened to me at Loyola-New Orleans in the late 1990s - they thought I was Hispanic bc I had placed in Spanish for state rally a few years in a row - but when I went to meet with them they realized I wasn’t Hispanic (which should’ve been easy by my name) and instead of a full scholarship, I got half - I didn’t go there anyway
My daughter received a scholarship from Princeton, only to receive notice they were rescinding... they mistakenly thought she was a minority. 1986
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Posted on 6/8/23 at 5:23 pm to 427Nova
I went to a private school and had 1 other classmate graduate with me.
I was runner up valedictorian.
I was runner up valedictorian.
Posted on 6/8/23 at 5:28 pm to TBoy
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No. I wouldn't bet that lower qualified black candidates are getting a free pass. The MITs get black and Hispanic applicants with extremely high SATs
Have you seen the average MCAT scores by race for admitted students? If black students can get into something as med school with lower scores, imagine how it is for undergrad.
Posted on 6/8/23 at 5:31 pm to TBoy
quote:the coalition for college success, or some organization with a name like that - does get first generation students into prestigious colleges, and also minorities - the student can’t be totally stupid, but they do not necessarily have to be high achievers
I wouldn't bet that lower qualified black candidates are getting a free pass. The MITs get black and Hispanic applicants with extremely high SATs. They also get applicants from all over the world with extremely high SATs.
Posted on 6/8/23 at 5:33 pm to 427Nova
Bro doesn't want to go work with any of the Chinese spies working in those universities anyways.
Posted on 6/8/23 at 5:43 pm to PrecedentedTimes
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SCOTUS is gonna rule on this stuff in a few weeks. If AA is gutted, there’s gonna be a massive demographic shift at a lot of colleges.
It's sink or swim. If you don't like underperforming compared to Asians, do something about it and work your arse off.
Posted on 6/8/23 at 5:48 pm to LordSaintly
kids are all grown so I’ve been out of that for awhile, but when I was at LSU I was way behind all of the foreigners in my curriculum (CivE,) because they had taken all of the tough core courses in middle and high school, in La. those type of courses weren’t offered in public schools
Posted on 6/8/23 at 5:55 pm to TheWalrus
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They can use whatever criteria they want, everyone applying has damn near perfect grades and test scores. They want to know if you were president of the chess club.
Let me introduce to you Michael Wang. In 2012, Wang graduated from high school in the Bay Area. 4.67 gpa, aced ACT, 99 percentile SAT, on the school’s debate and speech team, founded…yes founded the school’s math club, played the piano and sang with the San Francisco Opera at Obama’s innauguration. Not good enough for Harvard, Princeton, Yale, etc.
Posted on 6/8/23 at 5:56 pm to LSUnation78
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He will probably be better off not going to those “elite” universities with race quotas.
Posted on 6/8/23 at 5:59 pm to TBoy
Grade inflation, the reduction in rigor of these standardized tests, people getting their kids special training/courses for said standardized tests, and a host of other things have honestly made these metrics awful at gauging student potential.
Hell 20+ years ago, we had a guy transfer from my high school our senior year. He went to another school in the school district (a regular one vs our magnet) and while he was in the bottom 20th percentile at our school going into our senior year, he graduated top 4 at the new school. These metrics are awful indicators of student quality now and are way worse than they used to be.
That said, there are plenty of strong minority students getting taken into these schools. They aren't taking a kid that is weak academically because they have enough strong applicants there to not have an issue.
There is definitely bias against non-minorities, don't get me wrong, but it is also way more people going to college and kids are being gifted everything, so its hard to see differences these days.
Hell 20+ years ago, we had a guy transfer from my high school our senior year. He went to another school in the school district (a regular one vs our magnet) and while he was in the bottom 20th percentile at our school going into our senior year, he graduated top 4 at the new school. These metrics are awful indicators of student quality now and are way worse than they used to be.
That said, there are plenty of strong minority students getting taken into these schools. They aren't taking a kid that is weak academically because they have enough strong applicants there to not have an issue.
There is definitely bias against non-minorities, don't get me wrong, but it is also way more people going to college and kids are being gifted everything, so its hard to see differences these days.
This post was edited on 6/8/23 at 6:04 pm
Posted on 6/8/23 at 6:11 pm to 427Nova
Have told this several times here. A nephew had perfect GPA and near perfect SAT. College of choice asked him to defer enrollment to summer because of quotas… he accepted another offer.
Dude walked out of college into a $140k job…
Colleges shooting themselves in the foot by passing over future donors to enroll students that likely will just transfer or dropout.
Dude walked out of college into a $140k job…
Colleges shooting themselves in the foot by passing over future donors to enroll students that likely will just transfer or dropout.
Posted on 6/8/23 at 6:12 pm to 427Nova
Colleges now claim to be “test optional”. Meaning, you don’t have to submit an ACT or SAT score “if you feel your merits are strong enough without the test”.
Meaning, if you’re a minority and have a good story about struggling in this systemic racist culture we live in, and you cannot get a good score on the ACT because it’s a racist test, you may still get accepted over a young adult who took the time to take the test.
Meaning, if you’re a minority and have a good story about struggling in this systemic racist culture we live in, and you cannot get a good score on the ACT because it’s a racist test, you may still get accepted over a young adult who took the time to take the test.
Posted on 6/8/23 at 6:17 pm to 427Nova
NEVER say that your kid is Asian on any paperwork. Ever.
My Vietnamese co-worker puts down that his kid is a white or "other" race and is hispanic on every form that he has ever filled out for him.
My Vietnamese co-worker puts down that his kid is a white or "other" race and is hispanic on every form that he has ever filled out for him.
Posted on 6/8/23 at 7:04 pm to PrecedentedTimes
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If AA is gutted, there’s gonna be a massive demographic shift at a lot of colleges.
Doubtful, who is going to enforce their biased admissions.
Now if the kid gets $100M in damages from each school and they tap their elite endowments it’s game on.
Posted on 6/8/23 at 7:14 pm to 427Nova
So? I'm concerned about my own people.
Posted on 6/8/23 at 8:17 pm to 427Nova
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scored a 1590 out of 1600 on the SAT, with a perfect score on the math section. Combined with a 4.65 high school GPA,
Though I understand the 1590 SAT score I no longer have a clue how 4.65 GPA compares anymore.
Posted on 6/8/23 at 8:21 pm to CoachChappy
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SCOTUS is gonna rule on this stuff in a few weeks. If AA is gutted, there’s gonna be a massive demographic shift at a lot of colleges.
Wrong. They've already switched to subjective criteria. Like if they see an applicant's name is "wang" they are throwing it in the trash.
All they have to do is rank Asians lower on these subjective criteria like "character", "Trustworthiness", and "Bravery". Blacks will score the highest on these categories and Asians will score the lowest. It's that simple.
Posted on 6/9/23 at 6:04 am to 427Nova
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You know, diversity and all.
I highly doubt those Elite Universities were looking for an old wooden ship
Posted on 6/9/23 at 7:01 am to LSUnation78
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He will probably be better off not going to those “elite” universities with race quotas.
Where you can sit under the pedagogical mastery of Lori Lightfoot or Chesa Boudin.
Posted on 6/9/23 at 7:05 am to 427Nova
That stache alone accounted for the -10
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