re: This 15 year old baw makes the “catch me outside” girl look tame

That's all it took. For him to be forced into a situation he didn't want to be in and that he had no control over.

It's his dad's fault. He should have let him know whats up when he was 7 and this bullshite behavior probably began.

Also, even now that this kid has a little size, he's still not a man. He's a little bitch kid who sits in his room and plays video games all day. Next time he talks that way to him or his mother, walk into his room, rip his computer out of the wall violently, if he gives him shite punch him in the face and then throw him out the door. That dad needs to grow a pair.

Maybe not at this level, but I had a family member with similar tendencies. Slept all day, never went to school, played the hell out of video games, talked back to mom, called her a bitch. Dad was around but wasn't around.

Mom came to my wife and I and asked for advice. I said I could install a piece of equipment that would allow her to push a button on her phone and cut off the internet access to his devices (mainly console and gaming PC).

When push came to shove, mom didn't want to do it. That kid ended up being a dropout punk and he's 25 and still lives at home doing the same thing. Hasn't even tried to get a job.

All that to say, 99% of the time in these situations, its the parents fault. That house was nice. They weren't poor. They bought that kid everything he ever wanted and raised him like that.

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he will have a room with a twin bed and nothing else and will earn back entertainment privileges one at a time.

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Had a co-worker whose daughter and she were having problems. We all went out for a smoke break.

Told the mother right in front of her daughter it might be time to remove all but the mattress from her room, buy a few prison jumpsuits and few large cans of instant oatmeal. If the girl wants more than that then she could start acting like it. Law says parent has to provide a safe environment, clothing, and food. Nothing about entertainment, designer duds and hairdoo's, nothing about furnish furniture, or anything like that.

The daughter's jaw dropped, the mother grinned real big. Right then and there the relationship improved.

True story.

I just don't understand how this happens.

Kid has no job, no source of income to live on, no education, not legally allowed to make age of majority decisions, no discernible skills to help out around the house, and is altogether torture to be around.

I'm not a parent, but I feel like I could fix this. The first tantrum where he goes overboard like that, drawing blood on his mom? His guitar is going straight to the pawn shop. Then the phone. Then the PC. He physically resists? Fine. Here come the cops to put me in possession of the things I bought. He initiates a fight? Get ready to be put down. I would literally wear around a body camera so that whatever means I used to defend myself would be documented as justified. He runs away? Fine. Have fun trying to live on your own. He decides that he's Julius Ceasar and will never, ever, ever, accept defeat and is determined to resist forever? Great! My obligations toward you end! Emancipation, restraining order, and physical removal.

This is exactly what my parents would have done. I lived in their house, not the other way around. That feckless father is trying to love his kid into a better person, but junior doesn't speak that language.

That Dad. Yeesh.

If somehow it EVER got to that point and my kid was daring me to hit him and I didn’t think I could take him I’d get my arse in the gym and on the sauce pronto, take classes etc and reestablish dominance. Grow a pair dude.

This is what happens when you let your kid get away with anything. Then you blink your eyes, he’s 15, and you’ve established for 15 years that you have no spine so he walks all over you.

His father should be bitch slapped like the pussy he is.

I mean growing up I never dreamed of treating my mom like that. Because first she'd beat my arse. Then my dad would beat my arse when he got home.

Then the weekend would arrive, and I'd have to face my grandfather.

This kid would be eating all his food pureed because he'd have no teeth.

And that milquetoast of a Dad should get lessons in how to be a man and handle his business of being a parent to that out of control teenager.