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They could stop 75% of these riots by disabling cellphones on the scene

Posted on 6/2/20 at 10:09 am
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
76774 posts
Posted on 6/2/20 at 10:09 am
Maybe spray water cannons straight into the air to behave like heavy rain? Maybe a concentrated EMP? I know the military has that capability.

People just want to live stream and/or video this to share on social media. If they can't show off to the internet how awesome they are, they will leave.
Posted by Loup
Ferriday
Member since Apr 2019
17746 posts
Posted on 6/2/20 at 10:10 am to
it's pretty scary that we are willing to give the government the power to shut down civilian communication in an area.

ETA: it'd be more palatable to me if they could only target the folks doing the looting/rioting, not just anybody in the area. Even then, though....they have the power to quickly target devices on that many people that quickly. scares the heck out of me. the government doesn't always use power for good.
This post was edited on 6/2/20 at 10:24 am
Posted by Upperdecker
St. George, LA
Member since Nov 2014
33920 posts
Posted on 6/2/20 at 10:11 am to
Rubber bullets will solve these riots. LA knows what’s up
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
76774 posts
Posted on 6/2/20 at 10:11 am to
quote:

it's pretty scary that the government has the capability to shut down civilian communication in an area.



Not really. They do this in hostage situations and things like that. These people are causing billions in damage and ruining businesses when the economy is already fragile. The violence has to stop.

Communication isn't enough here though, they need to stop people from videoing it so they can't share it later.

I know when we killed Bin Laden the helicopter somehow carried an EMP around that blacked out everything around it in a concentrated area.

ETA:

But a cell signal jammer would be a decent start.

This post was edited on 6/2/20 at 10:13 am
Posted by The Sea Otter
AR-Kansas
Member since Mar 2019
583 posts
Posted on 6/2/20 at 10:12 am to
quote:

it's pretty scary that the government has the capability to shut down civilian communication in an area.


It is also scary that mobs of idiots are descending on our cities and destroying property in the name of "justice"

Let the military take care of it, they'll tuck tail and run.
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
76774 posts
Posted on 6/2/20 at 10:14 am to
Also, to be clear, I just mean do this when protests turn into riots.

Peaceful protesting obviously should be allowed to continue without interference.

Posted by Tiger Prawn
Member since Dec 2016
26366 posts
Posted on 6/2/20 at 10:14 am to
quote:

People just want to live stream and/or video this to share on social media. If they can't show off to the internet how awesome they are, they will leave.


They'll just record it and upload it later when they have cell service or wifi.

The water cannon idea may work though because people don't want to ruin their $800 iphone. Although at this point they can just get a brand new one looting.
Posted by nicholastiger
Member since Jan 2004
57326 posts
Posted on 6/2/20 at 10:15 am to
And not have CNN out there covering it
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
76774 posts
Posted on 6/2/20 at 10:15 am to
quote:

They'll just record it and upload it later when they have cell service or wifi.

The water cannon idea may work though because people don't want to ruin their $800 iphone. Although at this point they can just get a brand new one looting.



100% and I said this a bunch in this thread

We need to stop them from being able to use their phones completely.
Posted by Klark Kent
Houston via BR
Member since Jan 2008
75980 posts
Posted on 6/2/20 at 10:15 am to
inb4, “wh@T @BouT Small Gov3nMenT. N0w You’R3 0kay w!tH Gov3nM3Nt ov3REaCH?”


quote:

Also, to be clear, I just mean do this when protests turn into riots. Peaceful protesting obviously should be allowed to continue without interference.


exactly.
This post was edited on 6/2/20 at 10:16 am
Posted by kojak
Member since Apr 2020
531 posts
Posted on 6/2/20 at 10:15 am to
Protests are just riots waiting to happen at this point
Posted by Anaximander
3524 Third St New Orleans, LA
Member since Jun 2018
3412 posts
Posted on 6/2/20 at 10:16 am to
quote:

it's pretty scary that we are willing to give the government the power to shut down civilian communication in an area.




Better than a militarized police force.
Posted by stout
Porte du Lafitte
Member since Sep 2006
184716 posts
Posted on 6/2/20 at 10:17 am to
quote:

We need to stop them from being able to use their phones completely.



So an EMP?
Posted by JYD
Pineville
Member since Oct 2003
8711 posts
Posted on 6/2/20 at 10:18 am to
How about just turn off the 4G and shut the social media down? Social media is the gas on the fire here. Shut down twitter, IG, Snap, etc. and it's a lot less interesting for everyone and they go home, not to mention the organizing of the riots seem to be coming on twitter, etc.
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
76774 posts
Posted on 6/2/20 at 10:18 am to
quote:

So an EMP?




Which I mentioned in the OP?

Yes, they have concentrated EMPs now. I would like the powerful water cannons shot directly into the air over the protesters to act like heavy rain is a more practical measure though.
Posted by TH03
Mogadishu
Member since Dec 2008
172004 posts
Posted on 6/2/20 at 10:19 am to
Not very supportive of 1A huh?
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
76774 posts
Posted on 6/2/20 at 10:19 am to
quote:

How about just turn off the 4G and shut the social media down? Social media is the gas on the fire here. Shut down twitter, IG, Snap, etc. and it's a lot less interesting for everyone and they go home, not to mention the organizing of the riots seem to be coming on twitter, etc.



You can't do this. These are private businesses and are international platforms.

It has to be localized response to keep cellphones in pockets.

Posted by Tigers4Lyfe
Member since Nov 2010
6818 posts
Posted on 6/2/20 at 10:20 am to
quote:

it's pretty scary that we are willing to give the government the power to shut down civilian communication in an area.
It's pretty scary that you think freedom has no limits.
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
76774 posts
Posted on 6/2/20 at 10:20 am to
quote:

Not very supportive of 1A huh?



I'm not stopping anyone from speaking freely.

I'm stopping people from using their cell phones. We do that all the time. Movie theaters have damn jammers for god's sake.

They can also just leave the area and use their phone.
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 6/2/20 at 10:20 am to
quote:

People just want to live stream and/or video this



I'm glad they are. I've been watching a lot of them and they give a clearer picture to what's been going down.

Most of the ones I've watched have been the protests without violent incidents, other than the pig cops being pig cops. I have watched a few of the looting ones - also pigs. The disparity in police presence at the peaceful events compared to the looting scenes is jarring. Almost like the police want the looting to happen.
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