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re: There are people whose land is lost to the river and creek changes from Helene

Posted on 10/3/24 at 6:45 pm to
Posted by GetCocky11
Calgary, AB
Member since Oct 2012
53397 posts
Posted on 10/3/24 at 6:45 pm to
Yeah Ive seen a few lots where most of the land fell into the river and is gone. One person owned like 20 acres and about 10 of those acres don’t exist anymore

Another lot had a trailer on it. You’d never know there was a trailer or even land there at one point now.
This post was edited on 10/3/24 at 6:46 pm
Posted by Nado Jenkins83
Land of the Free
Member since Nov 2012
63069 posts
Posted on 10/3/24 at 7:01 pm to
Flood waters like that are a big fear of mine.

Your leg gets caught in a tree or something could be it for you

Posted by Ghost of Colby
Alberta, overlooking B.C.
Member since Jan 2009
13747 posts
Posted on 10/3/24 at 7:05 pm to
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I wonder how many have been contacted to sell their land...

I wonder how many offers are from NYC private equity firms and/or foreign investors?
Posted by Cycledude
Member since Jul 2018
1995 posts
Posted on 10/3/24 at 7:06 pm to
I would have thought Western North Carolina would have been safe from a hurricane! Seems like these storms are traveling inland more and more.
Posted by Snoop Dawg
Member since Sep 2009
2620 posts
Posted on 10/3/24 at 7:09 pm to
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Accretion vs. Avulsion and Erosion

In contrast to erosion, avulsion happens when erosion or accretion occurs very quickly, typically as the result of a serious storm, such as a hurricane. Land lost by avulsion typically can still be claimed by the landowner, which generally gives them the right to reclaim and replenish the land without a special permit. Despite this, if additional land is created by avulsion, the landowner typically does not have ownership over this new land.


LINK
Posted by BayouBlitz
Member since Aug 2007
18126 posts
Posted on 10/3/24 at 7:10 pm to
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I’d go for a claim to own a percentage of the water way. Probably some $$ in there somewhere. Go big.


Hell yeah. Take the surveyors out in boats.
Posted by DCtiger1
Member since Jul 2009
10257 posts
Posted on 10/3/24 at 7:11 pm to
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Can’t wait to see how insurance companies get out of paying anything to these poor people.


Well, these are all flood claims so it won’t be the insurance companies, it’ll be FEMA. Good try though
Posted by Fat and Happy
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2013
18734 posts
Posted on 10/3/24 at 7:12 pm to
I would absolutely be telling my arse hole neighbor, you can now get the frick off my land cause yours doesn’t exist anymore punk arse bitch
Posted by hellifiknow
Alabama
Member since Dec 2014
780 posts
Posted on 10/3/24 at 7:15 pm to
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Can’t wait to see how insurance companies get out of paying anything to these poor people.

Unless they had flood insurance, they may not have any claims, but I'm not an insurance expert.
Posted by Rick9Plus
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2020
2239 posts
Posted on 10/3/24 at 7:19 pm to
I’m no geologist or whatever, but once the excess water drains or evaporates, won’t there be about the same amount of water as before the storm? I guess creeks or rivers could become wider and shallower. If you look at Google Earth you can see the previous tracks of the Mississippi and other rivers, and how some state boundaries don’t follow the river anymore. But the surface area of land stayed roughly the same. Hopefully they will redistribute it somehow.
Posted by turkish
Member since Aug 2016
2123 posts
Posted on 10/3/24 at 7:25 pm to
What are the laws related to accretion in that region? Down here, you’re SOL if a stream changes course and takes your land.
Posted by AbitaFan08
Boston, MA
Member since Apr 2008
27724 posts
Posted on 10/3/24 at 7:41 pm to
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Well, these are all flood claims so it won’t be the insurance companies, it’ll be FEMA. Good try though


Good try? What am I trying? Of course I understand without flood insurance people are in trouble. But are we pretending that flood insurance will automatically help these people?
Posted by Kjnstkmn
Vermilion Parish
Member since Aug 2020
16379 posts
Posted on 10/3/24 at 7:47 pm to
Posted by TarheelPete
Carrboro
Member since Jun 2024
615 posts
Posted on 10/3/24 at 7:47 pm to
Helene caused more climate change in 24 hours than "man" has caused in the last 200 years.
Posted by DCtiger1
Member since Jul 2009
10257 posts
Posted on 10/3/24 at 7:54 pm to
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Good try? What am I trying? Of course I understand without flood insurance people are in trouble. But are we pretending that flood insurance will automatically help these people?


Look at your original post. There are no insurance companies, just NFIP which is the federal government
Posted by UKWildcats
Lexington, KY
Member since Mar 2015
18164 posts
Posted on 10/3/24 at 7:58 pm to
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Seems the pathway in almost every case is the road.
That's because they're in the mountains. Drive through Kentucky. The amount of rock and limestone they have to blast through to create the interstates I'd unimaginable. These roads are in the hollers. They're not going to build them way up if they don't have to. Path of least resistance is to wind them around the base of the mountains towards whatever destination.
Posted by wahoocs
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2004
23643 posts
Posted on 10/3/24 at 8:19 pm to
That has to be utter and compete bullshite

Has all the earmarks of hype and hysteria

I’m sure the fed govt is frickkng it up like everything else they touch, but there’s no conspiracy to cause more pain and devastation to those affected
Posted by SantaFe
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2019
7240 posts
Posted on 10/3/24 at 8:20 pm to
Living next to a river or the ocean can be a beautiful experience but it comes with major risks.
Posted by HeadSlash
TEAM LIVE BADASS - St. GEORGE
Member since Aug 2006
53147 posts
Posted on 10/3/24 at 8:24 pm to
Blue roofs survive?
Posted by ryanlsu
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2005
1376 posts
Posted on 10/3/24 at 8:25 pm to
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Down here, you’re SOL if a stream changes course and takes your land.


In Louisiana you get replacement land from the previous course of the stream that is now a riverbed.
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