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re: there are NO consequences in school anymore at all, it is a joke
Posted on 5/8/25 at 11:44 am to LSUguy2023
Posted on 5/8/25 at 11:44 am to LSUguy2023
You want to see consequences in school, just let a kid misgender someone
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Posted on 5/8/25 at 11:49 am to 03 West CoChamps
Parents determine where their child goes to school..
Crappy parents don't like a teacher because they are strict or require the child to actually learn, parent pulls the kid from the school.
School loses money from the government for that pupil.
School decides to just let kids do whatever to retain kids
Kids have no consequences.
Every teacher of my kid has been told, if you have a problem whip their arse, then all me and I'll do it too. My kids know if a teacher calls they are considered guilty until proven innocent.
Crappy parents don't like a teacher because they are strict or require the child to actually learn, parent pulls the kid from the school.
School loses money from the government for that pupil.
School decides to just let kids do whatever to retain kids
Kids have no consequences.
Every teacher of my kid has been told, if you have a problem whip their arse, then all me and I'll do it too. My kids know if a teacher calls they are considered guilty until proven innocent.
This post was edited on 5/8/25 at 11:50 am
Posted on 5/8/25 at 11:52 am to 03 West CoChamps
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At what point do we consider the education of the other students in the classroom this student was disrupting? No one talks about those kids education.
The context of my comment was regarding attendance related issues, not behavioral. Behavior issues are different and should be handled differently. But plenty of people talk about the kids in class with disruptive students.
That becomes an administrative and governmental issue, though. And while none of these issues are particularly easy to solve regardless of what some may think, that one is quite challenging.
Posted on 5/8/25 at 11:54 am to Wayne Campbell
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The context of my comment was regarding attendance related issues,
I don't know anyone who gets ISS or OSS for absences. Skipping sure, as in choosing to not go to class or leave campus, absolutely. But truancy is not disciplined by ISS or OSS to my knowledge.
Posted on 5/8/25 at 11:55 am to ATrillionaire
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Believe it or not, you are complicit.
Complicit in what exactly? He is counseled, appropriate consequences are consistently administered, and the cycle repeats. I guess we should just let him fail.
Posted on 5/8/25 at 12:00 pm to 03 West CoChamps
Someone earlier said that the kids know that there are no consequences and/or that the consequences are a total joke. This is 100% TRUE and just enables the kids to continue doing some or all of the things I listed in the OP.
Maybe I just went to a great high school, but I graduated 20 years ago and know of several kids who failed a class and/or grade due to one or multiple of the reasons I listed in the OP.
Maybe I just went to a great high school, but I graduated 20 years ago and know of several kids who failed a class and/or grade due to one or multiple of the reasons I listed in the OP.
Posted on 5/8/25 at 12:00 pm to subotic
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Believe it or not, you are complicit.
Complicit in what exactly? He is counseled, appropriate consequences are consistently administered, and the cycle repeats. I guess we should just let him fail.
You could meet with his teacher and asks her to stuff the necessary texts in his bag before he leaves.
Not everything is about consequences. Some kids just need extra care.
Posted on 5/8/25 at 12:00 pm to subotic
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This post was edited on 5/8/25 at 12:01 pm
Posted on 5/8/25 at 12:02 pm to LSUguy2023
Or anywhere. It's why schools are failing. Teachers have no control, and parents do not parent their kids or back the school up when needed.
Posted on 5/8/25 at 12:08 pm to ATrillionaire
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You could meet with his teacher and asks her to stuff the necessary texts in his bag before he leaves.
So he can drop it off in his locker before his next class and "forget" again? You're assuming way too much here. He is an intelligent but lazy teenager and should be expected to be able to complete his work in a timely manner.
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Not everything is about consequences. Some kids just need extra care.
That's very impractical advice. The world revolves around responsibility and consequences.
Posted on 5/8/25 at 12:09 pm to LSUguy2023
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caught cheating on a test? who cares, you get to make up the test at a later date
The rest of what you put is the truth as far as education goes. But I'd politely tell my admin to go f themselves on this one. Any kid I catch cheating is getting a zero and not making it up.
This post was edited on 5/8/25 at 12:22 pm
Posted on 5/8/25 at 12:10 pm to subotic
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You could meet with his teacher and asks her to stuff the necessary texts in his bag before he leaves.
So he can drop it off in his locker before his next class and "forget" again? You're assuming way too much here. He is an intelligent but lazy teenager and should be expected to be able to complete his work in a timely manner.
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Not everything is about consequences. Some kids just need extra care.
That's very impractical advice. The world revolves around responsibility and consequences.
You give up. I get it. I'll drop it.
Posted on 5/8/25 at 12:12 pm to LSUguy2023
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get caught cheating on a test? who cares, you get to make up the test at a later date
get suspended for any reason? who cares, free vacation and you get to make up all the missed work
absent for 10/15/20 days? who cares, get to make up all the missed days by sitting in a classroom after school playing on your phone or laptop
not ready for a test? who cares, just have a parent email admin and bitch and complain and admin will make the teacher let the snowflake take the test a day or two later
Kids in school in the US get arrested and thrown in jail for fighting. If that had happened to most of us more than about 35 years old we would still be in jail serving that time for all of those fights....
Posted on 5/8/25 at 12:12 pm to ATrillionaire
Posted on 5/8/25 at 12:15 pm to Snipe
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There's NO God in schools anymore either.
It's not a conscience
Please, please, please explain how it is that an omnipotent god is unable to gain entry into a public school??? Don't y'all supposedly carry him in your hearts everywhere you go? If so but he ain't in schools that means that the kids of believers either don't or they leave poor old helpless god outside the door. For the life of me I will never understand how y'all arrive at these silly assed notions....
Posted on 5/8/25 at 12:17 pm to ATrillionaire
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Not everything is about consequences. Some kids just need extra care.
such as?
Posted on 5/8/25 at 12:18 pm to ATrillionaire
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You could meet with his teacher and asks her to stuff the necessary texts in his bag before he leaves.
Yeah…no HS teacher is doing this for a student when they have like 200 teenagers across seven periods… nor should they.
Maybe with a 504 plan…I doubt it but maybe.
Also, think about what you’re saying here….you are proposing a solution that is more work for the teacher than simply throwing late work in the trash can and recording a zero like they used to.
This post was edited on 5/8/25 at 12:19 pm
Posted on 5/8/25 at 12:19 pm to tylercsbn9
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Nothing frickin happened to the kid. He was back in class Monday.
I assuming the teacher didn't call the cops and file assault charges then? Cause personally as a teacher, that would be my first move. The student most certainly wouldn't still be in my class, or my admin would be teaching my class until that was fixed.
Posted on 5/8/25 at 12:19 pm to Wayne Campbell
I'm not an educator or a professor by any means. And I understand completely that it starts and ends with the home. But there has to be consequences somewhere.
If the parents were doing what they should, then these issues wouldn't be a problem in the first place. However, If the kid is not facing consequences at home, the answer is not for them to have no consequences at school either.
Inconvenience the kid. If that doesn't work, inconvenience the kid enough that is also inconveniences the parent. Eventually something will change.
If the parents were doing what they should, then these issues wouldn't be a problem in the first place. However, If the kid is not facing consequences at home, the answer is not for them to have no consequences at school either.
Inconvenience the kid. If that doesn't work, inconvenience the kid enough that is also inconveniences the parent. Eventually something will change.
Posted on 5/8/25 at 12:21 pm to Dadren
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Also, think about what you’re saying here….you are proposing a solution that is more work for the teacher than simply throwing late work in the trash can and recording a zero like they used to.
I'm suggesting the parent take initiative. Maybe the teacher helps, maybe he/she doesn't.
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