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re: The workforce shortage is real and ridiculous
Posted on 6/14/21 at 8:41 am to The Spleen
Posted on 6/14/21 at 8:41 am to The Spleen
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. It is the righties that have said they are 100% the cause.
Who said its 100% of the cause?
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Posted on 6/14/21 at 8:41 am to Horsemeat
quote:stopped reading right there...
aren't forced to go work shitty jobs
Posted on 6/14/21 at 8:41 am to thadcastle
Just wait until these shite stains get your money when you die for reparations. IMO, a bloody revolution is the only thing we can hope for.
Posted on 6/14/21 at 8:42 am to elcid
quote:Then start it.
IMO, a bloody revolution is the only thing we can hope for.
Posted on 6/14/21 at 8:42 am to RogerTheShrubber
Its largely the cause. There probably also a few young democrats out there not working because CNN has them terrified to leave the house.
Posted on 6/14/21 at 8:43 am to thadcastle
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Traveling this weekend and every restaurant had signs asking patrons to please be patient they are understaffed and can’t find people to hire. In the airports everything was so slow because no one could keep a full staff. Last week I got off a conference call with a manufacturer that is trying to fill 200 spots but can’t find anyone. They are going to homeless shelters and no one is willing work. Apparently when you can make a decent living without working, people won’t work.
I can reaffirm this as well, and it’s happening all over the country, or in most places around the country let’s say. What a pathetic situation we find ourselves in these days when work is readily available, and people would rather stay home than work and move up in their station in life by working toward that goal. There’s just something immoral about it that makes you pretty sick about it all, especially when you reflect on the generations in the past who couldn’t find work and would do anything for a break so they could pay their bills and keep a roof over their family’s head.
Posted on 6/14/21 at 8:43 am to Vacherie Saint
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well first of all, you have no idea what they do. If you were trying to hire skilled laborers, for example, that would be extremely difficult in certain areas.
I'll tell that to the 20 that are hiring in next door to me right now
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A welder who makes 16-17 per hour will stay home all day and collect 15 from Uncle Sam until the benefits are cut. Welders dont grow on trees
Yeah. You're right. Welders don't grow on trees. And if your company pays them 16-17 an hour then your company is a piece of shite. Skilled labor commands more than that.
Posted on 6/14/21 at 8:44 am to Vacherie Saint
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Yeah. Thats what it is.
When companies refuse to compete for prospective workers (i.e. increased wages and benefits) it’s a matter of time before they get left behind by others who are willing to do so.
This post was edited on 6/14/21 at 8:45 am
Posted on 6/14/21 at 8:47 am to A Smoke Break
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hey're bitching because those same people decided "frick this" and refuse to work low skill, low wage, no benefit jobs
they didn't just "decide"
The Government took my money, and gave it to these people to do nothing.
If I didn't have to pay taxes, I'd be a lot less concerned with people sitting on their asses collecting a check.
Posted on 6/14/21 at 8:48 am to The Spleen
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The majority of this board would stay home and not work if they were getting more than their job pays to do so. Not sure what the need is to degrade people that work these jobs.
bullshite. most of us aren’t working those type of jobs because we can see the forrest through the trees.
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Most people here wouldn't last a day working in a lot of busy restaurants. I know I wouldn't.
that’s you. i’ve worked much more physically demanding jobs before this career.
Posted on 6/14/21 at 8:48 am to The Spleen
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The majority of this board would stay home and not work if they were getting more than their job pays to do so.
So you admit the problem is the unemployment?
Posted on 6/14/21 at 8:48 am to Powerman
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You're right. Welders don't grow on trees. And if your company pays them 16-17 an hour then your company is a piece of shite. Skilled labor commands more than that.
17 bucks an hour is pretty standard starting pay for a entry level welder hoss. In fact, the national average salary for a wedler is less than 18 bucks per hour.
But I can give you other examples that you can try to pick apart rather than addressing the point that finding skilled labor in real numbers is incredibly difficult in many areas when they are paid to stay home. Or we can talk about other topics you dont know frick about.
Posted on 6/14/21 at 8:49 am to Adam Banks
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So you admit the problem is the unemployment?
No, it's not THE problem. It's a contributing factor for sure though.
Posted on 6/14/21 at 8:49 am to Ross
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bviously the answer is for companies to raise wages to attract workers, which totally won’t result in higher prices being passed to the consumer so that the companies can stay solvent with the added cost of labor, which totally won’t mean cost of living creeps up, which totally won’t mean government has to raise the floor at which they subsidize peoples’ existence, which totally won’t mean people will clamor for higher wages or they’ll just take the government cheese
it is true that wages haven’t kept up with cost of living and this is going to have to change to convince people to go back to work if we are going to have the welfare state as constructed, but this cycle is going to be never ending with our current expansionary monetary system and in the end the lower class is never truly going to win
All that truth. Kudos
Posted on 6/14/21 at 8:49 am to Vacherie Saint
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17 bucks an hour is pretty standard starting pay for a entry level welder hoss.
Yeah. Entry level.
A good pipe welder in the industrial world isn't getting out of bed for less than 24 an hour
Posted on 6/14/21 at 8:50 am to Powerman
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Yeah. You're right. Welders don't grow on trees. And if your company pays them 16-17 an hour then your company is a piece of shite. Skilled labor commands more than that.
This reminds me of the trucking industry and the CEO's constant whining about not being able to hire good drivers - all of the companies that do the training start the drivers off at $400/week. Think about that - $400/week for two months away from home and family, no benefits, camera in their faces, stuck with a trainer they don't know while working 60-70 hours per week. Their shitty practices have driven out more labor from the industry in the first 3 months than drivers retiring or leaving due to health problems/accidents. They in turn blame the people rather than pointing the finger at themselves while staring at a turnover rate over 100% - meaning more people quit each year than what stays. All they have to do is pay more and treat the drivers better but they don't and are now importing labor from Mexico, India, Europe, Russia, etc on visas instead of hiring Americans because they don't want to do it.
Some companies like the one I work for pay nearly $2k per week and treat us respectably resulting in very low driver turnover and high retirement volume.
Posted on 6/14/21 at 8:51 am to The Spleen
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THE problem
If your business is heavily labor intensive, yes...
if your business is not, then no.
Posted on 6/14/21 at 8:52 am to thadcastle
They don't make a "decent living" without working; the problem is that they wouldn't make a decent living if they did work.
Wages are simply too low; but, oh no, can't let supply and demand work when it comes to labor markets.
Wages are simply too low; but, oh no, can't let supply and demand work when it comes to labor markets.
Posted on 6/14/21 at 8:52 am to Powerman
who is talking about fricking mid career pipe welders in the oil field?
Try to stay on topic or stfu. The average american welder makes $17.90 per hour
Try to stay on topic or stfu. The average american welder makes $17.90 per hour
Posted on 6/14/21 at 8:54 am to thadcastle
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Apparently when you can make a decent living without working, people won’t work
you could be right comrade
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