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re: The workforce shortage is real and ridiculous

Posted on 7/17/21 at 8:31 am to
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
292880 posts
Posted on 7/17/21 at 8:31 am to
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So where are the vast higher paying jobs all these minimum wage people are supposed to be growing into?


Management, supervisory.

Its what people have done forever. The competition is non existent, and with minimal work ethic you can rise through ranks.
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
Cajun Navy Vice Admiral
Member since Oct 2012
39999 posts
Posted on 7/17/21 at 8:32 am to
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I’m no economics expert but my 401K is 18% higher than it was 5 years ago.


Holy shite that's horrible lmao
Posted by OldCat55
Member since Apr 2021
726 posts
Posted on 7/17/21 at 8:36 am to
Local Hancock Whitney branch lobby was closed yesterday. It was drive through only.

They did have security open the door for us so my 18 yr old could start a checking account.

They explained that one person was on vacation and another was out sick so they had to make schedule adjustments.

The assistant manager told us that they were uncertain as to whether another local branch, 10 miles away where I work, was fully open. However, they knew that a larger branch 30 miles away was completely open.

The workers were very busy, very accommodating, and absolutely great in working with my son.
Posted by Hulkklogan
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2010
43482 posts
Posted on 7/17/21 at 8:41 am to
Minimum wage was designed for a single FT job to raise a family and have a decent life. That was FDRs vision. They didn't tie it to inflation or any other metric, and that's been the downfall. Now, over the decades, it's been twisted into what you said. People think it's only for kids.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
292880 posts
Posted on 7/17/21 at 8:43 am to
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That was FDRs vision.


That was 80 years ago.

Since then, high barriers to entry, excessive regulation, foreign competition and we have allowed millions of illegal immigrants into the country, which puts downward pressure on wages.

Its a government created situation.

FDR also froze wages, which led to employers offering health care as an alternative.
This post was edited on 7/17/21 at 8:45 am
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
35778 posts
Posted on 7/17/21 at 8:44 am to
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I’m no economics expert but my 401K is 18% higher than it was 5 years ago. It’s also worth 50% less than it was 5 years go and dwindling. Why is that?




I guess because you have the worst 401k in the history of man kind
Posted by chalmetteowl
Chalmette
Member since Jan 2008
53389 posts
Posted on 7/17/21 at 9:39 am to
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Steel fab shops have had that problem for over a decades with finding welders even at up to $280 per hour




There’s only so many welders out there who are worth that…
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
23258 posts
Posted on 7/17/21 at 9:45 am to
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Minimum wage was designed for a single FT job to raise a family and have a decent life. That was FDRs vision. They didn't tie it to inflation or any other metric, and that's been the downfall. Now, over the decades, it's been twisted into what you said. People think it's only for kids.



So every single job out there should start at this? What? All HS kids, part time workers, etc. should have this pay? None lower?

Min wage has become nothing more than a political tool of the left to get votes by offering to raise it. It’s horrible politics and pandering.

If the politicians would stop and move to showing all the positions that one can move into after only a couple of months of training or experience, this entire debacle would change. But it won’t.

No economy can survive being forced to pay cart guys, grocery baggers, etc a min wage to raise a family on. There has to be jobs that high school kids and part timers can work to support any industry.
Posted by OweO
Plaquemine, La
Member since Sep 2009
119859 posts
Posted on 7/17/21 at 9:55 am to
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Min wage has become nothing more than a political tool of the left to get votes by offering to raise it. It’s horrible politics and pandering.


I always see people saying on this board "it has become a political tool for the left". Can we all admit that when something become a political tool, both sides use it when its convenient?

The right tells its people that the left wants to make businesses have to pay their employees more and that they left wants to raise it to some ridiculous rates which will cause price hikes (which I guess is true to some degree), but politicians are politicians, it doesn't matter what side they are on.

The only reason at least half of them are the party they are in is because that's the party they have to be to get elected, which is their main goal. They want to be in office to have the power that comes with it, they will play whatever side they have to.
Posted by dbeck
Member since Nov 2014
29454 posts
Posted on 7/17/21 at 9:56 am to
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Management, supervisory.

Yeah but then you have to babysit all the people too stupid to rise through the ranks...
Posted by Odysseus32
Member since Dec 2009
9554 posts
Posted on 7/17/21 at 9:57 am to
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They are going to homeless shelters and no one is willing work. Apparently when you can make a decent living without working, people won’t work.


Lacking basic understand of what's going on right now.
Posted by OweO
Plaquemine, La
Member since Sep 2009
119859 posts
Posted on 7/17/21 at 10:01 am to
Pretty much considering a lot of homeless people have mental issues.
Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
148031 posts
Posted on 7/17/21 at 10:03 am to
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Pretty much considering a lot of homeless people have mental issues.



yeah they are homeless because they are senseless....they have mental issues....we dont need more homeless shelters...we need to open up more mental hospitals
Posted by OweO
Plaquemine, La
Member since Sep 2009
119859 posts
Posted on 7/17/21 at 10:11 am to
And then ole boy can go to the mental health facilities to try to find workers.
Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
148031 posts
Posted on 7/17/21 at 10:19 am to
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And then ole boy can go to the mental health facilities to try to find workers.



Wal Mart greeters shouldnt be that hard to find..


Seriously though.....I think the best and very important jobs that the mentally ill can do is bag groceries, collect shopping carts, sweep floors, wash windows,...there are jobs for those people but they cant get jobs bc they dont have an address, or dont knwo their SS#, or have clothes or transportation......if the country really wants to fix the labor shortage they need to fix the issues that are holding some people back from getting these jobs and stop worrying about raising the pay scale.....that is what is killing the labor pool and businesses


The problems are the increase in the prices of material and the lack of labor plus the labor you do get you have to pay them more than they are worth
Posted by johnnydrama
Possibly Trashy
Member since Feb 2010
9117 posts
Posted on 7/17/21 at 10:54 am to
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Seriously though.....I think the best and very important jobs that the mentally ill can do is bag groceries, collect shopping carts, sweep floors, wash windows,...there are jobs for those people but they cant get jobs bc they dont have an address, or dont knwo their SS#, or have clothes or transportation......if the country really wants to fix the labor shortage they need to fix the issues that are holding some people back from getting these jobs and stop worrying about raising the pay scale.....that is what is killing the labor pool and businesses
I'm not shopping at a store that has legitimately insane people working there.
Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
148031 posts
Posted on 7/17/21 at 10:56 am to
That’s why I haven’t been to a Walmart in over 20 years
Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
148031 posts
Posted on 7/17/21 at 10:57 am to
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I'm not shopping at a store that has legitimately insane people working there.



I promise you that you already have.

If you shop at any store that employs trannys then you have
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
292880 posts
Posted on 7/17/21 at 10:58 am to
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Pretty much considering a lot of homeless people have mental issues.


Mental illness is not the primary reason for homelessness. Drug abuse is the primary reason.

Roughly 1/3rd are mentally ill to the point of it being serious.
Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
148031 posts
Posted on 7/17/21 at 11:01 am to
They all have mental issues but not all of them are on drugs

So you’re wrong again as usual Roger
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