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re: The Waco-Biker Thing Has Taken a Turn For Surreal

Posted on 7/10/15 at 12:10 pm to
Posted by StickyFingaz
Austin
Member since May 2013
13511 posts
Posted on 7/10/15 at 12:10 pm to
Damn... Texas gonna Texas
Posted by CCTider
Member since Dec 2014
25241 posts
Posted on 7/10/15 at 12:19 pm to
quote:

The Texas Bar Association and Texas Supreme Court must step in immediately before any more damage is done to the image of the justice system in Texas.


Yeah, because the Texas justice system had always been considered reputable and fair.





Posted by Patrick_Bateman
Member since Jan 2012
17823 posts
Posted on 7/10/15 at 12:22 pm to
quote:

It's amazing how many people think we have a fair and impartial judicial system in this country.

I'd say it's amazing how many people think we don't.
Posted by notiger1997
Metairie
Member since May 2009
61825 posts
Posted on 7/10/15 at 12:23 pm to
Ha ha
Posted by Darth_Vader
A galaxy far, far away
Member since Dec 2011
74688 posts
Posted on 7/10/15 at 12:24 pm to
quote:

It's amazing how many people think we have a fair and impartial judicial system in this country.

I'd say it's amazing how many people think we don't.



Do you honestly think the grand jury process in this instance is fair & impartial?
Posted by cyogi
Member since Feb 2009
5145 posts
Posted on 7/10/15 at 12:24 pm to
Texas.
Posted by Wtodd
Tampa, FL
Member since Oct 2013
68609 posts
Posted on 7/10/15 at 12:27 pm to
quote:

It's amazing how many people think we have a fair and impartial judicial system in this country.

This can't be said enough.

This reminds me of who investigated JFK's death.....the answer is a man JFK fired.
Posted by dreww221
Member since Nov 2009
469 posts
Posted on 7/10/15 at 12:30 pm to
Great guy. Serving as an officer of the law and doing his civil duty serving on a jury. More Americans should be like this man.
Posted by ashy larry
Marcy Projects
Member since Mar 2010
5582 posts
Posted on 7/10/15 at 12:30 pm to
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Do you honestly think the grand jury process in this instance is fair & impartial?



Whether it's fair or not is a valid argument, but it doesn't really matter. Do you really think that a grand jury wouldn't hand out the indictments anyway? Grand juries will indict anything.
Posted by Wtodd
Tampa, FL
Member since Oct 2013
68609 posts
Posted on 7/10/15 at 12:32 pm to
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Grand juries will indict anything.

Baltimore PD agrees with this statement
Posted by Agforlife
Somewhere in the Brazos Valley
Member since Nov 2012
20102 posts
Posted on 7/10/15 at 12:32 pm to
I told you it was going to get interesting before this was over. Waco is and has been a messed up place for a long time.
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
Member since May 2012
61642 posts
Posted on 7/10/15 at 12:36 pm to
Imagine the TD biker's response if this happened at a meeting between bloods and crips in LA.
Posted by Agforlife
Somewhere in the Brazos Valley
Member since Nov 2012
20102 posts
Posted on 7/10/15 at 12:41 pm to
Tbh if their rights were violated as bad as these folk's rights were I'd be hollering just as loud. This isn't about who, it's about what.
Posted by SabiDojo
Open to any suggestions.
Member since Nov 2010
84835 posts
Posted on 7/10/15 at 12:44 pm to
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Suppose if there'd been someone who was a member of a biker club, what do you think kind of criticism we would have received if I said, 'No, no you can't be on the grand jury, sorry.'"


Posted by Tigah in the ATL
Atlanta
Member since Feb 2005
27539 posts
Posted on 7/10/15 at 12:50 pm to
Motorcycle enthusiasts.

Lol
Posted by Tigah in the ATL
Atlanta
Member since Feb 2005
27539 posts
Posted on 7/10/15 at 12:54 pm to
To be honest, I bet you haven't said shite for the previous 30 years until white boy bikers got caught up in our justice system.
Posted by LSUTANGERINE
Baton Rouge and Northshore LA
Member since Sep 2006
38468 posts
Posted on 7/10/15 at 12:57 pm to
Bikers play stupid games, bikers win stupid prizes.
Posted by Poodlebrain
Way Right of Rex
Member since Jan 2004
19860 posts
Posted on 7/10/15 at 12:57 pm to
Grand juries only have the power to indict. They decide if there is enough evidence to try someone for a crime. Anyone they indict must be convicted in a criminal trial before being punished. There is no way he would be allowed as a juror in a criminal trial.

While it doesn't seem like the best possible way to administer justice, I do not think his serving on the grand jury impairs anyone's right to a fair trial.
Posted by PoppaD
Texas
Member since Feb 2008
5376 posts
Posted on 7/10/15 at 1:03 pm to
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Is this what passes for justice in Texas now? 



In baptist run Waco, unfortunatly yes.
Posted by Darth_Vader
A galaxy far, far away
Member since Dec 2011
74688 posts
Posted on 7/10/15 at 1:05 pm to
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Grand juries only have the power to indict. They decide if there is enough evidence to try someone for a crime. Anyone they indict must be convicted in a criminal trial before being punished. There is no way he would be allowed as a juror in a criminal trial.

While it doesn't seem like the best possible way to administer justice, I do not think his serving on the grand jury impairs anyone's right to a fair trial.


The cornerstone of our judicial system is an impartial jury, both a grand jury and a trial jury. Putting this detective on the grand jury is a slap in the face of that concept.

Think of it like this. Let's say you are accused of murdering one of your neighbors. Your case goes before the grand jury and heading that grand jury is the victim's brother. Would you have any issues with them being on that grand jury?
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