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re: The US is Neglecting its Smartest Kids (NPR Article)
Posted on 8/24/15 at 6:30 pm to SlowFlowPro
Posted on 8/24/15 at 6:30 pm to SlowFlowPro
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and no they aren't
yes they are, this was proven four or five years ago
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Posted on 8/24/15 at 6:34 pm to slacker130
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slacker130
Have an upvote from one of the herd.
The year before I entered Lee High School (back when we were still the Rebels and Dixie was our fight song), it was determined that the Advanced classes we had in Middle School were racially biased because of the demographic makeup of those classes, and we were all dragged back with the stragglers. I graduated with a high GPA, high ACT and arrived at LSU without the slightest clue how to study.
Years later, I paid a lot of money to pit my two sons through a highly regarded private public school, they graduated witH high GPA's, excellent ACT scores, got to LSU and weren't much better off than me. They just weren't challenged, even taking college credit AP courses. And their mother and I tried very hard to be interested, involved parents.
Posted on 8/24/15 at 6:36 pm to Icansee4miles
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The year before I entered Lee High School (back when we were still the Rebels and Dixie was our fight song), it was determined that the Advanced classes we had in Middle School were racially biased because of the demographic makeup of those classes, and we were all dragged back with the stragglers.
wait
so they eliminated advanced classes?
Posted on 8/24/15 at 6:40 pm to KamaCausey_LSU
Maybe it has something to do with the fact that we encourage the dumbest of our college students to pursue elementary education.
My wife used to live with an elementary education major and that has to be the easiest degree in college today. They literally just learn the subject matter that they are going to be teaching. The roommate still almost failed out of school. But she's still teaching elementary kids today. But yeah, I'm sure she's qualified to teach the gifted kids
My wife used to live with an elementary education major and that has to be the easiest degree in college today. They literally just learn the subject matter that they are going to be teaching. The roommate still almost failed out of school. But she's still teaching elementary kids today. But yeah, I'm sure she's qualified to teach the gifted kids
Posted on 8/24/15 at 6:45 pm to SlowFlowPro
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am i like the only person who slacked and still made good grades through college?
Depends on the coursework. Some courses of study demand better study habits than others.
Posted on 8/24/15 at 6:45 pm to SlowFlowPro
Posted on 8/24/15 at 6:51 pm to aVatiger
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yes they are, this was proven four or five years ago
o rly? please link that study so i can go ahead and drop out of graduate school right quick.
Posted on 8/24/15 at 6:52 pm to quail man
he's just trolling
Posted on 8/24/15 at 6:55 pm to aVatiger
quote:Where is this proof? In recent years, cognitive assessment has improved greatly with the empirically-validated Cattell-Horn-Carroll (CHC) three stratum model of intelligence.
yes they are, this was proven four or five years ago
Additional improvements with psychometric techniques and statistical software (e.g., Rasch modeling, Item-Response Theory, Factor Analysis, Cluster Analysis) as well as improved norming, the tests have increased reliability and validity.
This post was edited on 8/24/15 at 6:56 pm
Posted on 8/24/15 at 6:59 pm to SlowFlowPro
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which, by modern day standards, is slightly above average
It's 20 points above average. That's definitely gifted
Posted on 8/24/15 at 7:01 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:Pretty sure that was ours in Iberia Parish. Either that or 115. Been 15ish years since Scruffy took that test.
pretty sure 120 IQ at a min
Posted on 8/24/15 at 7:06 pm to prince of fools
quote:Well typically anything within a standard deviation (+ or - 15) is generally considered average. Either way, anything 120 and above is excellent.
It's 20 points above average. That's definitely gifted
Posted on 8/24/15 at 7:07 pm to buckeye_vol
I was in gifted from 3rd grade all the way through high school. I have no idea what my IQ is.
Posted on 8/24/15 at 7:15 pm to Brosef Stalin
quote:We didn't have it at Scruffy's elementary school. Took the test in 4th grade when he switched over. No clue what the ole IQ is either.
I was in gifted from 3rd grade all the way through high school. I have no idea what my IQ is.
Posted on 8/24/15 at 7:17 pm to SlowFlowPro
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NPR Article
dr
Posted on 8/24/15 at 7:18 pm to ILikeLSUToo
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wasn't until high school that my lack of proper study habits and laziness caught up with me. Couldn't coast anymore, started making C's, and my parents thought I'd made some bad influence friends and studying fell by the wayside. They didn't know how to fix it, and I didn't know what the problem was until much later.
This was my story . I went to LSMSA . First semester at LSU was a breeze. Then Chem-E classes began to show up. Yep, 1.0 here I came. Turned it around , but it was tough.
Posted on 8/24/15 at 7:22 pm to SlowFlowPro
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so they eliminated advanced classes?
Yep-they were obviously racially unbalanced, so they had to be stopped immediately. And they were.
Posted on 8/24/15 at 7:24 pm to Icansee4miles
holy fricking shite
that is straight up fricking retarded
that is straight up fricking retarded
Posted on 8/24/15 at 7:32 pm to Icansee4miles
quote:I know you're referring to advanced classes, as opposed to IQ tests, but besides canceling classes being ridiculous in right, this reminds me of a misconception about IQ testing and possible bias.
Yep-they were obviously racially unbalanced, so they had to be stopped immediately. And they were.
Although the uninformed will argue it as evidence of bias, but mean differences are not an accepted method to detecting test bias. So if one population scores higher than another, that is not necessarily indicative any bias or flaws in the testing.
This post was edited on 8/24/15 at 7:33 pm
Posted on 8/24/15 at 7:41 pm to Scruffy
If you're actually smart, you don't need help to succeed.
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