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re: The U.S. Housing Boom Is Coming to an End, Starting in Dallas

Posted on 12/1/18 at 2:14 pm to
Posted by bmy
Nashville
Member since Oct 2007
48203 posts
Posted on 12/1/18 at 2:14 pm to
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Young people should buy what they can reasonably afford but on a 15 year note. The interest to equity differential between a 30 and a 15 year is ridiculous


i'm waiting on the market to go south again. no point in buying with historically high prices
Posted by Crucial Taunt
Member since Nov 2016
308 posts
Posted on 12/1/18 at 2:17 pm to
Young buyers are going for smaller older houses inside the city that they can fix up with the amenities and style they want that’s close to everything. The cookie cutter suburb homes that are bigger but all look the same and require a commute into the city for work or play are not what they want to deal with or pay for.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
481186 posts
Posted on 12/1/18 at 2:18 pm to
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i'm waiting on the market to go south again. no point in buying with historically high prices

somewhat similar situation here and it's sliding

hell in 5 years, there are going to be some amazing values in Lafayette, too
Posted by jimbeam
University of LSU
Member since Oct 2011
75703 posts
Posted on 12/1/18 at 2:19 pm to
I’m hoping for much less
Posted by StringedInstruments
Member since Oct 2013
21071 posts
Posted on 12/1/18 at 2:19 pm to
Good.

Need it to come slash some prices in B’ham. I’m about ready to buy a house again.
Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
148031 posts
Posted on 12/1/18 at 2:20 pm to
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hell in 5 years, there are going to be some amazing values in Lafayette, too



Funny you say that because Lafayette is a lot like Dallas. Just a very much smaller version.

Both are very pretentious and lots of $30k millionaires
Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
148031 posts
Posted on 12/1/18 at 2:22 pm to
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Need it to come slash some prices in B’ham. I’m about ready to buy a house again.


B’ham should have some excellent deals.

I rode around Mountain Brook a few years ago and there were houses for sale all over the place. Lot of abandoned houses in supposedly the nicest area of Bham
Posted by bmy
Nashville
Member since Oct 2007
48203 posts
Posted on 12/1/18 at 2:22 pm to
Posted by Restomod
Member since Mar 2012
13493 posts
Posted on 12/1/18 at 2:23 pm to
quote:

Young buyers are going for smaller older houses inside the city that they can fix up with the amenities and style they want that’s close to everything. The cookie cutter suburb homes that are bigger but all look the same and require a commute into the city for work or play are not what they want to deal with or pay for.




trade off for everything for sure.

Here, a smaller home close to the city in a safe neighborhood will cost as much as the home in the burbs that is twice the size, 2-3 times the lot and A+ school rating.
Posted by cgrand
HAMMOND
Member since Oct 2009
50765 posts
Posted on 12/1/18 at 2:25 pm to
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Here, a smaller home close to the city in a safe neighborhood will cost as much as the home in the burbs that is twice the size, 2-3 times the lot and A+ school rating.

but it still might be the better investment as it will likely always be in demand.
and if you don’t have kids schools don’t matter as much

plus they generally are bought and sold more often which helps give the market confidence
Posted by PhiTiger1764
Lurker since Aug 2003
Member since Oct 2009
14616 posts
Posted on 12/1/18 at 2:25 pm to
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Young people should buy what they can reasonably afford but on a 15 year note.

Why would you nuke your cash flow when interest rates are still pretty low historically?
quote:

Its the same as putting $800 a month into an IRA

I feel like a 30 year note and $800/month into an IRA is a much better option.

Also, how many “young people” can reasonably afford a 15 year note on a decent home?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
481186 posts
Posted on 12/1/18 at 2:27 pm to
yeah but Lafayette isn't as diversified as they like to believe and are crashing from the $100/barrel days

oil isn't coming back
Posted by cgrand
HAMMOND
Member since Oct 2009
50765 posts
Posted on 12/1/18 at 2:28 pm to
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Also, how many “young people” can reasonably afford a 15 year note on a decent home?

smaller is better and almost universally a better buy
Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
58616 posts
Posted on 12/1/18 at 2:31 pm to
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Younger people realize that getting locked in to a 30 year McMansion to keep up with the Jones isn’t a smart decision.

I didn't know you have to stay in a home and can't sell for 30 years.
Posted by PhiTiger1764
Lurker since Aug 2003
Member since Oct 2009
14616 posts
Posted on 12/1/18 at 2:31 pm to
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smaller is better and almost universally a better buy

I bought a $1550 sqft home for $185k when I was 25. Was making about $52k at the time. Would have been impossible to swing a 30 year note.
Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
148031 posts
Posted on 12/1/18 at 2:32 pm to
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yeah but Lafayette isn't as diversified as they like to believe and are crashing from the $100/barrel days

oil isn't coming back


But they have all those Tech companies moving there. Ask NIH
Posted by cable
Member since Oct 2018
9735 posts
Posted on 12/1/18 at 2:35 pm to
I'd be depressed as fugg if I woke up at 55 years old and realized that I had tossed $500k in rent down the drain.
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
105146 posts
Posted on 12/1/18 at 2:38 pm to
Definitely seems market based so far.

I know we had threads on here a few months back asking for real estate advice and then ignoring what we said about asking for seller to cover closing costs, etc, specifically because it was Dallas.


Seems like last time where the problem markets were generally Vegas, Phoenix, Orlando, etc. and not most of the country.
Posted by brightside878
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2009
1650 posts
Posted on 12/1/18 at 2:53 pm to
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feel like a 30 year note and $800/month into an IRA is a much better option.


This. That guy made no sense. With dates as cheap as they are, buy somewhere desirable, enjoy appreciation, and at the worst you’ve lived there for free when you decide to move
Posted by crazyLSUstudent
391 miles away from Tiger Stadium
Member since Mar 2012
6204 posts
Posted on 12/1/18 at 2:53 pm to
Austin is still stupid. A 1400 sq. Ft house around the corner from me is selling for 700k
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