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re: The U.S. Housing Boom Is Coming to an End, Starting in Dallas

Posted on 12/1/18 at 1:30 pm to
Posted by Paul Allen
Montauk, NY
Member since Nov 2007
78655 posts
Posted on 12/1/18 at 1:30 pm to
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$300,000 house they bought on a middle to low income salary.



Define middle to low income salary for a working couple? I think a couple making $90,000 - $120,000 could easily afford a 300k home.
Posted by PiscesTiger
Concrete, WA
Member since Feb 2004
53696 posts
Posted on 12/1/18 at 1:31 pm to
Here is what I know...

Many people in late 20s to early 40s who couldn't care less about home ownership. It is becoming less and less a status symbol. It is just too complicated for some.

Less people getting married and more divorces.

Many of the late 20s just do not think paying more for a garage, a yard, and having to fix problems yourself as opposed to calling maintenance is worth it.
Posted by wfallstiger
Wichita Falls, Texas
Member since Jun 2006
16067 posts
Posted on 12/1/18 at 1:32 pm to
Prices insane, unsustainable
Posted by HailToTheChiz
Back in Auburn
Member since Aug 2010
55024 posts
Posted on 12/1/18 at 1:33 pm to
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In the high-end subdivisions in the suburb of Frisco, builders are cutting prices on new homes by up to $150,000. On one street alone, $4 million of new homes sat empty on a visit earlier this month. Some home builders are so desperate to attract interest they are offering agents the chance to win Louis Vuitton handbags or Super Bowl tickets with round-trip airfare, if their clients buy a home.


My God
Posted by MusclesofBrussels
Member since Dec 2015
5034 posts
Posted on 12/1/18 at 1:38 pm to
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I wonder how Austin, Nashville, Denver and other hot US cities are doing real estate wise?




Seattle had been the hottest market for the past two years, and things have slowed significantly here. Prices are falling, time on market is increasing, inventory is up, etc.
Posted by BluegrassBelle
RIP Hefty Lefty - 1981-2019
Member since Nov 2010
108917 posts
Posted on 12/1/18 at 1:39 pm to
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Many people in late 20s to early 40s who couldn't care less about home ownership. It is becoming less and less a status symbol. It is just too complicated for some.

Less people getting married and more divorces.

Many of the late 20s just do not think paying more for a garage, a yard, and having to fix problems yourself as opposed to calling maintenance is worth it.


Also, at least in our area, unless it’s higher end homes they’re generally thrown together shittily and inevitably higher cost to maintain than an older, well-built home. A lot of people my age (30s) are investing in older homes instead.
This post was edited on 12/1/18 at 1:41 pm
Posted by Mulat
Avalon Bch, FL
Member since Sep 2010
17517 posts
Posted on 12/1/18 at 1:40 pm to
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Wow, they built too many houses in one place, means the entire US housing market is going bust!


Posted by McLemore
Member since Dec 2003
35518 posts
Posted on 12/1/18 at 1:44 pm to
i just read that.

here's paywall circumvent link: LINK

i found it amusing that a pussy-assed young family bitched about 1500sf being too small for husband wife and two young kids. i mean, fine if you want more space, but the wording of that part just made me roll my eyes. make the kids pick up their fricking toys and save your money.
This post was edited on 12/1/18 at 3:56 pm
Posted by Restomod
Member since Mar 2012
13493 posts
Posted on 12/1/18 at 1:45 pm to
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Some home builders are so desperate to attract interest they are offering agents the chance to win Louis Vuitton handbags or Super Bowl tickets with round-trip airfare, if their clients buy a home.


Realtor gets $50,000 commission and gives you a $1,500 purse. How big of them.
Posted by ctiger69
Member since May 2005
31030 posts
Posted on 12/1/18 at 1:47 pm to
Not shocked
Posted by 50_Tiger
Arlington TX
Member since Jan 2016
43530 posts
Posted on 12/1/18 at 1:50 pm to
No it’s great news for me. I’ve been sitting in this fuggin apartment in North Dallas waiting for the dang market to fall through.

Now it’s a buyers market :)
Posted by Restomod
Member since Mar 2012
13493 posts
Posted on 12/1/18 at 2:01 pm to
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No it’s great news for me. I’ve been sitting in this fuggin apartment in North Dallas waiting for the dang market to fall through.

Now it’s a buyers market :)



Careful... Not sure if it will truly "crash" here, this area fared better than most during the crunch. Don't wait until interest rate is at 6.5% again. Lol
This post was edited on 12/1/18 at 2:09 pm
Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
148031 posts
Posted on 12/1/18 at 2:04 pm to
All tbose millennials moving to place like Dallas can’t afford to buy a house.

People like Mingo and TH03 can only afford $1200/month 1 bedroom apartments
Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
148031 posts
Posted on 12/1/18 at 2:06 pm to
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chance to win Louis Vuitton handbags or Super Bowl tickets with round-trip airfare,


Dallas is so fricking pretentious
Posted by EarlyCuyler3
Appalachia
Member since Nov 2017
27290 posts
Posted on 12/1/18 at 2:07 pm to
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I think they cleaned up the ridiculous mortgage swap practices and whatnot at big investment banks, but mortgage loans are still very easy to come by and interest rates are still ridiculously low. 



They're already back to pulling the same shite already. It'll collapse yet again and then the government will use our bucks to put another bandaid on it and no one will be punished. Rinse and repeat until the bandaid cant fix it.
Posted by bmy
Nashville
Member since Oct 2007
48203 posts
Posted on 12/1/18 at 2:08 pm to
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Wow, they built too many houses in one place, means the entire US housing market is going bust!



Nashville market is slowing down too. It's a wage problem.. costs to buy a home rose dramatically, wages remain relatively flat, and people are priced out.
This post was edited on 12/1/18 at 2:10 pm
Posted by LSUBadger
Member since Jan 2014
2238 posts
Posted on 12/1/18 at 2:09 pm to
Young people should buy what they can reasonably afford but on a 15 year note. The interest to equity differential between a 30 and a 15 year is ridiculous

First 7 years on a 30 year note 95% of what you are paying is interest. Terrible investment if you ever plan to move

My first house was $225k. 15 year note and I was applying $10k a year towards principal. After 5 years between that principal and appreciation I was $100k up as I moved to the next house

It’s the same as putting $800 a month into an IRA.

Renting for life like the one young poster suggested earlier is a bad move. Make a smart investment in a good area and with the right payment structure and you can build wealth

It too bad high schools don’t teach a basic financial management course. Young folks would be much better prepared once they got out of school
Posted by Bruco
Charlotte, NC
Member since Aug 2016
3033 posts
Posted on 12/1/18 at 2:09 pm to
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I wonder how Austin, Nashville, Denver and other hot US cities are doing real estate wise?


Some signs of modest cooling in Charlotte but no signs of impending doom. The problem here continues to be inventory. It’s been averaging around 10,000 homes on the market compared to double that 6 years sago. Not enough sellers.

What is showing major signs of trouble is the apartment glut we have here. There have been thousands of new units built in the past 5 years all trying to be “luxury” apartments, with thousands more under construction. Free months and dropping rents is starting.
Posted by Restomod
Member since Mar 2012
13493 posts
Posted on 12/1/18 at 2:09 pm to
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wealthy pockets in major cities are so fricking pretentious


FIFY
Posted by bmy
Nashville
Member since Oct 2007
48203 posts
Posted on 12/1/18 at 2:11 pm to
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Free months and dropping rents is starting.


frick. yes.
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