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re: The time has come to decriminalize marijuana in this country.
Posted on 9/14/20 at 10:23 pm to JohnnyKilroy
Posted on 9/14/20 at 10:23 pm to JohnnyKilroy
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lmao no
you haven't seen a politician outside of maybe Ron Paul advocate for anything other than some level of progressivism your entire life.
they may not take the label for themselves, but that's what they are.
our entire framework is a cathedral to progressivism.
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Posted on 9/14/20 at 10:26 pm to TheFlyingTiger
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you haven't seen a politician outside of maybe Ron Paul advocate for anything other than some level of progressivism your entire life.
they may not take the label for themselves, but that's what they are.
our entire framework is a cathedral to progressivism.
None of this makes those you listed Progressives
Posted on 9/14/20 at 10:28 pm to SuperSaint
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I agree but it’s trashy
it's a better and safer choice than opiates, though, my dude....
Posted on 9/14/20 at 10:28 pm to TheFlyingTiger
quote:libertarians are children vol. 8,783
you haven't seen a politician outside of maybe Ron Paul advocate for anything other than some level of progressivism your entire life.
Posted on 9/14/20 at 10:41 pm to Green Chili Tiger
It’s time to legalize THC. Everyone who doesn’t smoke has the stigma of how bad it smells, which I agree with. I don’t want to walk down the street and have a group of people blowing on a big blunt while I’m with my family.
But, with the different ways to take it now laws could be made to allow it to happen and find a happy median. Louisiana would definitely benefit from the added tax revenue from tourist especially.
My proposal would be:
Legalize vape pens, edibles and other “non smokeable products.”
Allow up to 1oz of smokeable weed purchase per “x” amount of days.
Public smoking restrictions put in place
Criminalize it like alcohol.
But, with the different ways to take it now laws could be made to allow it to happen and find a happy median. Louisiana would definitely benefit from the added tax revenue from tourist especially.
My proposal would be:
Legalize vape pens, edibles and other “non smokeable products.”
Allow up to 1oz of smokeable weed purchase per “x” amount of days.
Public smoking restrictions put in place
Criminalize it like alcohol.
Posted on 9/14/20 at 10:43 pm to Meezy
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how bad it smells, which I agree with. I don’t want to walk down the street and have a group of people blowing on a big blunt while I’m with my family.
Smells delicious imo 100x’s better than tabacco
This post was edited on 9/14/20 at 10:44 pm
Posted on 9/14/20 at 10:43 pm to JohnnyKilroy
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None of this makes those you listed Progressives
yes. it makes all of them progressives, including almost every republican you've ever seen.
it doesn't mean some broad idea of someone on the "left"
and it doesn't really matter what label they take for themselves.
the term progressive didn't come back until people were tired of being yelled at for being "liberal" so they supplanted progressive because it sounds nicer, and they could cherry pick some history they liked.
but it isnt a stand-in for liberal. it's a direct link back to the teddy Roosevelt/woodrow wilson age when the evangelicals took over the country, and used their religious logic in their politics. the idea of social justice was a religious one first that didn't mean what it means today.
but the church and the politicians threw in together, and now we have a giant religion we all worship called the State.
tithe- taxes
prayer- pledge
cross- flag
state supported scientists and politicians- clergy
freedom- heresy
they won. hard. you cant even see the world except through a lens of progressivism. total victory.
Posted on 9/14/20 at 10:44 pm to Meezy
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It’s time to legalize THC. Everyone who doesn’t smoke has the stigma of how bad it smells, which I agree with. I don’t want to walk down the street and have a group of people blowing on a big blunt while I’m with my family.
But, with the different ways to take it now laws could be made to allow it to happen and find a happy median. Louisiana would definitely benefit from the added tax revenue from tourist especially.
I hate the tax revenue arguments. Let's give you a little more freedom so we can sell it back to you
Sorry, not an attack on you personally.
Posted on 9/14/20 at 10:50 pm to Green Chili Tiger
Sorry. I didn’t read through the last three hours of postings on this topic, but I will say this, no matter where you are in this country, you’re no more than a one and a half day drive to a legal, recreational marijuana store. (I guess if you live in South Florida, or maybe central South Dakota that’s not true). Anyway, with facts like that, I cannot imagine why we would continue this Federal prohibition. Let the states decide. Most would probably say wtf, legalize it and tax it. It does, in fact damage your brain, but so does alcohol, nicotine and somewhat indirectly, sugar. The savings of $$$$ in federal enforcement efforts alone should dictate this. My 2 cts.
Posted on 9/14/20 at 10:52 pm to TheFlyingTiger
Dude just stop when people talk about progressives they're not talking about the Clintons, Obama, or any of the establishment. They're talking about people who are pro M4A, pro legalization, pro free college, pro Green New Deal, anti war mongering, among other things.
Just because you call it radical or Marxism doesn't make it true.
Just because you call it radical or Marxism doesn't make it true.
Posted on 9/14/20 at 10:52 pm to Green Chili Tiger
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quote:
Chuck Schumer
@SenSchumer
The time has come to decriminalize marijuana in this country.
3:32 PM · Sep 14, 2020·
I don't agree with Democrats very often but with this I agree. It needs to be rescheduled and made available like alcohol and cigs. Hopefully Trump will reschedule it and stop all the BS tickets and incarcerations for it.
Posted on 9/14/20 at 10:54 pm to beachdude
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The savings of $$$$ in federal enforcement efforts
and incarceration, and the destruction of multiple generations of THOUSANDS of families for a plant that grows in the dirt.
and just the nature of your relationship with the Gov't gets a little less hostile right away.
unless they tax it, then its still just as violent and stupid
Posted on 9/14/20 at 11:01 pm to dawgfan24348
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Dude just stop when people talk about progressives they're not talking about the Clintons, Obama, or any of the establishment. They're talking about people who are pro M4A, pro legalization, pro free college, pro Green New Deal, anti war mongering, among other things.
Just because you call it radical or Marxism doesn't make it true.
I didn't call it anything, its a general mixup of terms we have that makes it confusing. and apparently you didn't read any of what I wrote above.
you can't cure a disease if you don't recognize it.
I'm trying to unravel the twisted terminology, because progressive doesn't mean "leftie"
pelosi is for m4a, but not necessarily the green new deal as a whole piece of legislation, because it doesn't poll well and is tough to get concensus on.
she's no radical, but she is a progressive that understands how to hold on to power and incrementally get what she wants.
Medicare for all is something the Republicans will support in 20y, but to a slightly lesser degree than the dems.
just look at Part D, no child left behind. that's progressivism. those are democrat policies from 20-30y before, the Republicans just caught up.
I'm not for any of these things, but know who your enemy is before you keep voting for him.
eta: anti-war mongering is probably the best thing you could be, so... strike that from the list
This post was edited on 9/14/20 at 11:09 pm
Posted on 9/14/20 at 11:45 pm to TheFlyingTiger
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pelosi is for m4a
Nope
LINK
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she is a progressive
Again no she isn't. Please go up to anyone who calls themselves a progressive and ask them if she is
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but know who your enemy
Sounds like you don't know anything about your enemy. Sounds like you just spout Fox News bs like Obama is progressive or Bernie is Marxist
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anti-war mongering is probably the best thing you could be, so... strike that from the list
What does that even mean?
Posted on 9/14/20 at 11:48 pm to dawgfan24348
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They're talking about people who are pro M4A, pro legalization, pro free college, pro Green New Deal, anti war mongering, among other things.
So commies
Posted on 9/14/20 at 11:52 pm to fishfighter
Pass the doob old timer
Posted on 9/15/20 at 12:03 am to dawgfan24348
from the article: "I'm not a big fan of Medicare for All," Pelosi told Bloomberg. "I mean I welcome the debate, I think that we should have health care for all."
is there a difference or do you wanna split hairs over implementation? single payer, state run Healthcare, Medicare for all. wtf's the difference. it's all stupid and wrong.
yes. she is. but she's also a talented power broker, but you havent read a single thing I said about the term. the latest coopting of the term to mean BLM/ANTIFA/squad/Green new deal doesn't make it true.
theyre radicals, pushing the party left. the establishment IS progressive, but it may not be moving as fast as the radicals would like.
lol fox News. lefties think I'm a rightie and righties think I'm a leftie. binary thinking.
red v. blue! fight! haha
being anti war is not a negative thing. why is THAT hard to undedstand?
is there a difference or do you wanna split hairs over implementation? single payer, state run Healthcare, Medicare for all. wtf's the difference. it's all stupid and wrong.
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Again no she isn't. Please go up to anyone who calls themselves a progressive and ask them if she is
yes. she is. but she's also a talented power broker, but you havent read a single thing I said about the term. the latest coopting of the term to mean BLM/ANTIFA/squad/Green new deal doesn't make it true.
theyre radicals, pushing the party left. the establishment IS progressive, but it may not be moving as fast as the radicals would like.
lol fox News. lefties think I'm a rightie and righties think I'm a leftie. binary thinking.
red v. blue! fight! haha
being anti war is not a negative thing. why is THAT hard to undedstand?
This post was edited on 9/15/20 at 12:08 am
Posted on 9/15/20 at 12:09 am to jmarto1
No thanks - our car insurance premiums are high enough
Posted on 9/15/20 at 12:15 am to Green Chili Tiger
Trump missed an easy opportunity here. He could come out and demanded that the legislature send a bill to his desk that makes weed legal at the federal level.
It would have been seen as refreshing by many swing voters.
It would have been seen as refreshing by many swing voters.
Posted on 9/15/20 at 12:32 am to BeepNode
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Trump missed an easy opportunity here. He could come out and demanded that the legislature send a bill to his desk that makes weed legal at the federal level.
It would have been seen as refreshing by many swing voters.
he can do it unilaterally. doesn't need congress.
pushing it to congress is a delay tactic
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