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re: The story about anesthesia insurance coverage is a lot more complicated than it looks

Posted on 12/5/24 at 11:48 pm to
Posted by biglego
San Francisco
Member since Nov 2007
80092 posts
Posted on 12/5/24 at 11:48 pm to
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Payors don’t dictate treatment? Where does such a healthcare system exist?


Well then if the payor is going to instruct the provider, the payor needs to be held to the same standard as a provider.
Posted by Warfox
B.R. Native (now in MA)
Member since Apr 2017
3527 posts
Posted on 12/6/24 at 4:53 am to
Medicare billing practices suck.
Posted by gdzgft28
Member since Nov 2015
898 posts
Posted on 12/6/24 at 5:05 am to
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Well then if the payor is going to instruct the provider, the payor needs to be held to the same standard as a provider.


Just name a country with a healthcare system as you describe. Where the payor simply pays without placing restrictions and limitations on said care.
Posted by elprez00
Hammond, LA
Member since Sep 2011
30647 posts
Posted on 12/6/24 at 5:38 am to
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Community notes- which is twitter’s fact checking service, is now posting this under every post that shares the story:

What a difference an African American owner makes.
Posted by L S Usetheforce
Member since Jun 2004
23131 posts
Posted on 12/6/24 at 5:58 am to
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ETA- it was $750 per ear. Just for the anesthesiologist. To administer laughing


First off it was not just laughing gas. It was likely a combo of that and sevoflurane. Secondly, sleeping a child via mask induction requires a skillset that most providers avoid. The risk for a kid include laryngospasm which can obstruct a kids airway. They are respiratory dependent. Meaning if this occurs without IV access you have maybe 1 min at most before the child is at risk of death.

Lastly, I highly doubt that number is true. Because billing modifiers for anesthesia don’t allow for that reimbursement.


Posted by TripleBarrelBluff1
Sin City
Member since Aug 2024
2430 posts
Posted on 12/6/24 at 6:43 am to
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gdzgft28


I hope they're at least paying you well for your dedicated defense of them.
Posted by gdzgft28
Member since Nov 2015
898 posts
Posted on 12/6/24 at 6:45 am to
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I hope they're at least paying you well for your dedicated defense of them.


You're not going to get me to take you out by stalking me like this, Ma'am.
Posted by SirWinston
PNW
Member since Jul 2014
95699 posts
Posted on 12/6/24 at 6:54 am to
Keep simping for big Healthcare, mate. Are you going to Brian's funeral?
This post was edited on 12/6/24 at 6:56 am
Posted by BeaumontBengal
Member since Feb 2005
2345 posts
Posted on 12/6/24 at 7:58 am to
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I didn't link it to surprise billing so I got that part wrong, but I told y'all from the get that this was about anesthesiologists overbilling.


And you were wrong there too.
Posted by winkchance
St. George, LA
Member since Jul 2016
5209 posts
Posted on 12/6/24 at 8:24 am to
This is the world today.

The issue is there are some anesthesiologists who are dirtbag criminals engaging in fraud.

The solution is punish the patient instead of punishing the handful of doctor committing billing fraud. However, the insurance does not want to engage in that because it will open their fraudulent activities to scrutiny.
Posted by lowhound
Effie
Member since Aug 2014
8625 posts
Posted on 12/6/24 at 8:30 am to
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Average salary for anesthesiologist in America: 403,000/year


Dayum I'm in the wrong line of business. Can anesthetists have truck nuts too?
This post was edited on 12/6/24 at 8:31 am
Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
171659 posts
Posted on 12/6/24 at 8:31 am to
The political alignment reaction to this whole situation is schizophrenic as frick
Posted by scott8811
Ratchet City, LA
Member since Oct 2014
12363 posts
Posted on 12/6/24 at 8:34 am to
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Payors don’t dictate treatment? Where does such a healthcare system exist?


I was responding to an asshat that seemed to be in favor of BCBS on this one saying it's not the job of payors to have the patients best interest it's the doctors...so cool...totally agree... now show me a payor who fricks off and does that... BCBS is the worse offender in my field
Posted by CrimsonTideMD
Member since Dec 2010
6997 posts
Posted on 12/6/24 at 8:55 am to
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who other than the companies that are effectively paying their salary would be in a position to leverage them down and save the consumer unnecessarily high premiums



Oh theyre in position

Posted by Sam Waterston
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
2008 posts
Posted on 12/6/24 at 11:24 am to
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it was $750 per ear. Just for the anesthesiologist. To administer laughing gas.


For the record, no we will not turn off anesthesia mid case, 2, I only pocket about $250 for a 2 ear case
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora
Member since Sep 2012
70266 posts
Posted on 12/6/24 at 11:39 am to
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First off it was not just laughing gas. It was likely a combo of that and sevoflurane. Secondly, sleeping a child via mask induction requires a skillset that most providers avoid. The risk for a kid include laryngospasm which can obstruct a kids airway. They are respiratory dependent. Meaning if this occurs without IV access you have maybe 1 min at most before the child is at risk of death.


K, keep me posted



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Lastly, I highly doubt that number is true. Because billing modifiers for anesthesia don’t allow for that reimbursement.


You'd be dead fricking wrong.
Posted by scott8811
Ratchet City, LA
Member since Oct 2014
12363 posts
Posted on 12/6/24 at 11:42 am to
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he political alignment reaction to this whole situation is schizophrenic as frick


You love to see it. An issue where people think and formulate a view point instead of regurgitating a talking point... refreshing honestly.
Posted by dallastigers
Member since Dec 2003
8013 posts
Posted on 12/6/24 at 11:59 am to
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anesthesiologists… studies have found that they are the number 1 culprit behind surprise billing.


I don’t know if it’s been corrected, but the biggest surprise used to be that they wouldn’t be in network and not normally the patient’s choice like the doctor performing the procedure.

I would also support patients being billed once by the hospital or facility for surgeries or outpatient procedures. They can pay the doctors involved out of what’s billed. Being sent a bill out of the blue by someone hospital chose and likely don’t even know their name especially when performing and reviewing diagnostic or imaging tests another doctor ordered is a joke and can look like a double billing error that payment to hospital is taking care of.

Posted by GillGo37
Nola
Member since May 2006
886 posts
Posted on 12/6/24 at 12:07 pm to
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When my toddler had tubes put in his ears, the anesthesiologist administered laughing gas, once. Billed twice, because it was two ears. I reported this to my ins co for overbilling, the ins co said no, this is fine. ETA- it was $750 per ear. Just for the anesthesiologist. To administer laughing gas.


Your child did not just receive laughing gas for Pe tubes. Sevoflurane is used with a combination of laughing gas.

With just laughing gas that kid would be all over the table with the ent working under a microscope, that’s not very conducive for surgery.
Posted by L S Usetheforce
Member since Jun 2004
23131 posts
Posted on 12/6/24 at 1:08 pm to
You paid an anesthesia site fee.
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