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re: The state sanctioned mafia known as River Pilots are shaking down the chemical industry
Posted on 4/3/18 at 9:11 am to LSUFanHouston
Posted on 4/3/18 at 9:11 am to LSUFanHouston
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They are all state-licensed with limits on the number of licenses.
this is the problem
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Posted on 4/3/18 at 9:12 am to ThatMakesSense
You asked him once and he answered. Now you move the goalposts and asked again. And now you're wanting to say let's let anyone do it when the original guy unfortunately for your argument had experience.
He never stated let anyone do it.
He never stated let anyone do it.
This post was edited on 4/3/18 at 9:14 am
Posted on 4/3/18 at 9:12 am to ThatMakesSense
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Point being, these pilots make that much money because the property damage and environmental impact of an accident is 100x greater than the cost of their annual salary.
They make that much money because their industry is protected by miles of bureaucratic red tape.
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One of the responsibilities of licensed river port pilots is, when a need for more pilots exists, to select individuals from a list of qualified applicants provided by the Board of River Port Pilot Commissioners. The specific requirements to be qualified by the Board of River Port Pilot Commissioners is available directly from that State Board. However, those requirements include a college degree (although not required, usually from a maritime college) and multiple United States Coast Guard licenses. The Board of River Port Pilot Commissioners operates an apprenticeship program for those selected individuals, which itself has numerous requirements and examinations. Only upon completion of that apprenticeship program and certification by the Board of River Port Pilot Commissioners is an individual recommended to the governor for appointment as a River Port Pilot.
The damn governor appoints the pilots. It's a sham.
ETA - to be fair, they're good at what they do, but they're not the only people who are qualified for such a task.
This post was edited on 4/3/18 at 9:13 am
Posted on 4/3/18 at 9:12 am to ThatMakesSense
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Sweet, you think you could wheel in a 735 ft ship with 70,000 tonnes of cargo into a port you've never been into?
Maybe we should give every swinging dick the opportunity to give it a go? What's the worst that could happen?
I don't know about the worst, but the best thing that could happen is the tech industry gets to work on self-piloting ships.
These pilots better get what they can while they can. They think they're irreplaceable. They're not.
Posted on 4/3/18 at 9:12 am to SPEEDY
Somehow I had no idea that river pilots made that much
Posted on 4/3/18 at 9:14 am to LSUFanHouston
My father is an attorney and I remember he was representing someone suing some pilots association (happens a lot), and he and my buddy's dad who was a pilot were not too friendly at our little league games and such. They avoided each other completely. 
The pilot guy held a damn grudge, that's for sure.
The pilot guy held a damn grudge, that's for sure.
Posted on 4/3/18 at 9:14 am to ThatMakesSense
Ummmm. Aren’t they pretty familiar with the ports they navigate 
On topic: my sisters godfather was a pilot. Maybe he was different but great people......and they had many toys.
On topic: my sisters godfather was a pilot. Maybe he was different but great people......and they had many toys.
Posted on 4/3/18 at 9:15 am to HammerheadLincoln
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Somehow I had no idea that river pilots made that much
Those folks on the receiving end of this kind of sham, graft, over regulated industry, rarely spread around how much they're taking home.
Posted on 4/3/18 at 9:16 am to SlowFlowPro
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this is the problem
I agree that limited licenses are the problem... but again... pretty much all the southern states, if not more, have limits on licenses, depending on amount of traffic. In Mobile, it's like 14.
Posted on 4/3/18 at 9:17 am to CharlesLSU
Somalian pirates will do this job for $20,000 a year.
Posted on 4/3/18 at 9:20 am to notiger1997
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have some serious connections is the only way one gets the job.
Good thing networking and connections are forbidden in all other available jobs.
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It's a pure union/mafia style of doing business and yes they are overpaid as a result
Anything that isn't agreed on in Louisiana is suddenly mafia or good ole boy system related. Y'all are stuck in some weird time warp of bureaucratic conspiracy.
Posted on 4/3/18 at 9:20 am to tgrbaitn08
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Let these pilots go on strike and see who gives in first.
The plants can use trucks and rail too baw. It’ll be painful, but these river pilots need to be put in their place from time to time.
Posted on 4/3/18 at 9:22 am to ThatMakesSense
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have some serious connections is the only way one gets the job.
Good thing networking and connections are forbidden in all other available jobs.
The nepotism is pretty damn bad in the pilot profession. I could train my entire life to be a pilot, but have the wrong last name and not be even considered for the job.
Posted on 4/3/18 at 9:22 am to ThatMakesSense
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Anything that isn't agreed on in Louisiana is suddenly mafia or good ole boy system related. Y'all are stuck in some weird time warp of bureaucratic conspiracy.
well this is in the requirements
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The Board of River Port Pilot Commissioners operates an apprenticeship program for those selected individuals, which itself has numerous requirements and examinations. Only upon completion of that apprenticeship program and certification by the Board of River Port Pilot Commissioners is an individual recommended to the governor for appointment as a River Port Pilot.
they choose who gets to apprentice
they choose of the apprentice pool, who gets certified
then the governor selects the new pilot after being filtered by two very biased processes
Posted on 4/3/18 at 9:23 am to ThatMakesSense
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ThatMakesSense
So... you're a river pilot, aren't you?
Posted on 4/3/18 at 9:23 am to ThatMakesSense
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Maybe we should give every swinging dick the opportunity to give it a go? What's the worst that could happen?
So your position is that the current system is merit based? That's pretty funny.
Posted on 4/3/18 at 9:24 am to tgrbaitn08
Where do I apply?
Posted on 4/3/18 at 9:24 am to nicholastiger
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Where do I apply?
at birth through the right vagina
Posted on 4/3/18 at 9:24 am to ThatMakesSense
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Anything that isn't agreed on in Louisiana is suddenly mafia or good ole boy system related. Y'all are stuck in some weird time warp of bureaucratic conspiracy.
You don't think governor appointments in LA are a good ole boy system?
Posted on 4/3/18 at 9:26 am to ThatMakesSense
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ThatMakesSense
In the interest of full disclosure and honest discussion, are you or yours in any way related to these folks?
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