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re: The Roman Empire compared to a map of the USA

Posted on 5/26/23 at 6:08 am to
Posted by LanierSpots
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Posted on 5/26/23 at 6:08 am to
Romans has white slaves


I want my fricking check


Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
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Posted on 5/26/23 at 6:26 am to
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All of them


Nope. But please do share your thoughts in detail.
Posted by Cheese Grits
Wherever I lay my hat is my home
Member since Apr 2012
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Posted on 5/26/23 at 6:44 am to
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You are elevating the Western Roman Empire for no real reason.


Nope.

It was the original Rome and based on a larger geographic footprint and a more homogeneous population.

New Rome in the East was basically a City / State with an original population of more say the Persian Empire.


Western Rome = North America with the native Indians

Eastern Rome = New Amsterdam (when Dutch) and just a City / State to create trade between the New World and Old World with a different culture than the native Indians.


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I said, some of those administrative and cultural legacies remained up until the 20th century in some cases.


Which ones?

Franklin said he based the US on the North East Indian cultures tho historically we claim Democracy / Republic.

Romans spoke Greek and their texts were in Greek (a diminished culture) just as we adopted Latin tho it has not been a spoken language for ages.


Western Rome embraced many gods
Eastern Rome embraced 1 god

Western Rome was based on conquest and expansion
Eastern Rome was based on a contraction and a trading post with advantages

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The rule is either to adapt or die.


The laws are more fixed on the scientific end

"Matter can not be changed"

3 phases of everything in the universe
#1 Creation
#2 Existence
#3 Destruction

Without the strategic advantage of the Holy Roman Empire based on a single location and the ability to defend it the survival would have been short.

Old Romans = Italians
New Romans = Turks
Posted by Mike da Tigah
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Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 5/26/23 at 6:58 am to
And like the Roman Empire, they placate us with our bread and games whilst running roughshod over the lot of us. Our infrastructure, and economy can be crumbling, and our quality of life melting away before our very eyes, but as long as we have the games, we’re all good.


Posted by Nono
Member since Nov 2017
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Posted on 5/26/23 at 7:07 am to
i see camel toe near Tampa
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
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Posted on 5/26/23 at 7:27 am to
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It was the original Rome and based on a larger geographic footprint and a more homogeneous population.



Uh, early Rome did not have a more 'homogenous' population. I have no idea where you are getting that notion. One way we know this is through the linguistic footprint of the Italian peninsula, which included several distinct Italic languages, including groups like the Falisci, among many many others.

I don't know what you mean by larger geographic footprint, but one reason Rome was stripped of its wealth in Late Antiquity was due to its poor location, as it was farther south in the peninsula and was supplanted in this era by Ravenna and eventually other cities in Northern Italy. It was a good central location for conquering Italy, but it lacked the ease of both land and sea access to the broader Mediterranean.

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New Rome in the East was basically a City / State with an original population of more say the Persian Empire.



What the frick are you talking about? This is absolute nonsense. The Greeks in Asia Minor lived in that area for several centuries, and considered themselves Roman up until the years leading to the Greek War of Independence. Indeed, the Greeks who remained in the Ottoman Empire considered themselves Romans. The Anatolian peoples were largely Indo-European too, and to say they were inhabited by people from the Persian Empire, which rarely had control of Asia Minor proper, is very stupid. You have absolutely no idea what you are talking about with respect to the population make-up of these areas.

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Which ones?



For example, both the Ottoman Empire and the Russian Empire claimed direct lineage to the Roman Emperors. Roman administrative structures were adopted wholesale into the Umayyad Empire, with its center at Damascus, as the pattern of the early Arab conquests was that they generally adopted the already existing administrative structures, with the differences being where taxes were sent.

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Western Rome was based on conquest and expansion
Eastern Rome was based on a contraction and a trading post with advantages



What? Man, you desperately need to read something non-retarded about Late Antiquity.

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The laws are more fixed on the scientific end

"Matter can not be changed"


Again, this isn't even an answer to what I'm referring to.

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Old Romans = Italians
New Romans = Turks


My dear lord man, the Turks were a Central Asian group that moved into Anatolia in the 11th century. Moreover, they didn't replace the people who lived there. Do you know how we know?
Posted by chinhoyang
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 5/26/23 at 8:18 am to
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is it just me, or does this look like a Domino's Noid with a leaky penis?


I prefer to view the camel toe in Florida:

Posted by Stealth Matrix
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Posted on 5/26/23 at 8:35 am to
Thanks, can't unsee
Posted by cattus
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 5/29/23 at 2:30 pm to
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At the peak the Mongol empire was almost 5 times as large as the peak Roman empire.
The OP is focusing on the size but the Roman Empire doesn't get it's greatness from its size really but from it's duration and long lasting influence. We are using their alphabet still.
The Mongolians disappeared almost as quickly as they came.
Posted by cattus
Member since Jan 2009
14611 posts
Posted on 5/29/23 at 2:48 pm to
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early Rome did not have a more 'homogenous' population.
I don't think he means that early of Rome nor the Republic even. He is probably referring to Rome by Trajan 117(larger geographic footprint) but before 212 when citizenship was handed out in large outside Italy and focusing on the homeland itself.
There is a lot of evidence that Italic people shared a kinship, though. Especially the Falisci, considering their Latino-Faliscan relationship before getting absorbed like many in the 2nd Century BCE.
I am reminded of a discussion I read once where a Spanish linguist convinced a historian that the Romance languages didn't evolve from a later vulgar latin but from an ancient Italian. A creolization that developed on the peninsula sometime from when they united to fight Carthage to the Social War then used by the conquering legions from there. Crazy but interesting anyway.
Posted by Chucktown_Badger
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Member since May 2013
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Posted on 5/29/23 at 3:00 pm to
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Romans spoke Greek and their texts were in Greek


The ancient Romans didn’t even have smartphones silly head.
Posted by Chucktown_Badger
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Member since May 2013
34061 posts
Posted on 5/29/23 at 3:09 pm to
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But not Dublin


Excuse me miss, are you Irish? Because my dick’s Dublin.
Posted by caro81
Member since Jul 2017
5639 posts
Posted on 5/29/23 at 3:10 pm to
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is it just me, or does this look like a Domino's Noid with a leaky penis?


love to see what you do with some Rorschach tests
Posted by Chucktown_Badger
The banks of the Ashley River
Member since May 2013
34061 posts
Posted on 5/29/23 at 3:10 pm to
Is the blatant vagina on Florida banworthy?
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