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re: The ribbon gun.
Posted on 10/11/18 at 1:41 pm to Old Sarge
Posted on 10/11/18 at 1:41 pm to Old Sarge
Watch the video guys.
The 5 round block has a propellant and a primer. It's not an air gun or a rail gun.
Where it's different from a normal gun, is that an electromagnetic pulse ignites the primer. Think of wirelessly charging your cell phone - same idea.
Rounds aren't loaded with a bolt. There are no moving parts.
The block is the "chamber", the ammunition, and the magazine all in one.
While no moving parts should make it reliable, I'm concerned about the electric part.
I'm also concerned about the weight of the gun's 5 barrels.
Practically, it's a people killer. Meant for wartime abuse in harsh conditions, can be used as a rifle, or a long-range shotgun.
I'm curious how the blocks stack together and how fluidly they eject and reload. This strikes me as being somewhat similar to the stripper clips for the M1. I wonder if it's POW POW POW POW POW *clunk* POW POW...*clunk*.
The 5 round block has a propellant and a primer. It's not an air gun or a rail gun.
Where it's different from a normal gun, is that an electromagnetic pulse ignites the primer. Think of wirelessly charging your cell phone - same idea.
Rounds aren't loaded with a bolt. There are no moving parts.
The block is the "chamber", the ammunition, and the magazine all in one.
While no moving parts should make it reliable, I'm concerned about the electric part.
I'm also concerned about the weight of the gun's 5 barrels.
Practically, it's a people killer. Meant for wartime abuse in harsh conditions, can be used as a rifle, or a long-range shotgun.
I'm curious how the blocks stack together and how fluidly they eject and reload. This strikes me as being somewhat similar to the stripper clips for the M1. I wonder if it's POW POW POW POW POW *clunk* POW POW...*clunk*.
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Posted on 10/11/18 at 2:13 pm to rowbear1922
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I've read before where, usually leftist, people think an AR can shoot 900 rounds a minute. Even if you are the fastest reloader there is, you have to reload every 2 seconds with 30 round mags. Or if they try to use a 100 rd barrel, more than likely you will cause some form of a jam.
Not to mention if you shot 900 rounds in a minute it would be so hot it might catch fire
Posted on 10/11/18 at 2:15 pm to fr33manator
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Not to mention if you shot 900 rounds in a minute it would be so hot it might catch fire
Yea I have seen some videos where they belt fed both ARs and AKs until the point they caught fire/melted. Pretty insane.
Posted on 10/11/18 at 2:21 pm to bencoleman
No way we see this in mass qtys in our lifetime. Nice idea, though.
Posted on 10/11/18 at 2:21 pm to rowbear1922
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No clue, I've never shot an airsoft gun.
And you call yourself a man?
Posted on 10/11/18 at 2:26 pm to BitBuster
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'm also concerned about the weight of the gun's 5 barrels
It's one barrel with 4 or 5 bores. It weighs less than an m16.
Posted on 10/11/18 at 2:28 pm to el Gaucho
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And you call yourself a man?
I shoot real guns
ETA: I will say some of the sniper videos of airsoft war games are pretty insane.
This post was edited on 10/11/18 at 2:30 pm
Posted on 10/11/18 at 2:47 pm to rowbear1922
Maybe they’ll make a semi auto version for civilians?
Posted on 10/11/18 at 2:48 pm to deltaland
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Maybe they’ll make a semi auto version for civilians?
with electric bump stock
Posted on 10/11/18 at 2:49 pm to deltaland
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Maybe they’ll make a semi auto version for civilians?
Civilian Assault Rifle, baw.
Posted on 10/11/18 at 3:08 pm to rowbear1922
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I've read before where, usually leftist, people think an AR can shoot 900 rounds a minute. Even if you are the fastest reloader there is, you have to reload every 2 seconds with 30 round mags. Or if they try to use a 100 rd barrel, more than likely you will cause some form of a jam.
Rounds per minute is just a standard of measuring current speed at the moment it is observed. When a cop pulls you over for speeding does he ask you what your average speed has been over the past hour to guage your miles per hour or does he write you a ticket for going 80 miles per hour at the instant he observed you in a 60mph zone?
This post was edited on 10/11/18 at 3:09 pm
Posted on 10/11/18 at 3:11 pm to Propagandalf
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Rounds per minute is just a standard of measuring current speed at the moment it is observed. When a cop pulls you over for speeding does he ask you what your average speed has been over the past hour do guage your miles per hour or does he write you a ticket for going 80 miles per hour at the instant he observed you in a 60mph zone?
Difference though: If you drive for an hr at 80 miles an hour, you are going to go 80 miles. Even if your fire rate between rounds is 900 rounds per minute, you still aren't getting anywhere NEAR 900 rounds after the minute.
Posted on 10/11/18 at 3:17 pm to oleheat
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No way we see this in mass qtys in our lifetime. Nice idea, though
A military version is being developed for the army. It's going to be mass produced.
Posted on 10/11/18 at 3:20 pm to rowbear1922
I get your claim. But how do you not understand it is possible to go 80 miles per hour without traveling 80 miles in an hour. The ability to sustain a speed for the base unit of measure doesn't take away from the fact that you are still at the moment achieving that speed. An M4 fires at a speed of more like 600 rounds per minute. Would it make you feel better if we reduced that fraction to rounds per second and said it shoots 10 rounds per second? It's the same thing. And I think you can agreed that an M4 can fire for 1 second straight.
Posted on 10/11/18 at 3:28 pm to Propagandalf
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I get your claim. But how do you not understand it is possible to go 80 miles per hour without traveling 80 miles in an hour. The ability to sustain a speed for the base unit of measure doesn't take away from the fact that you are still at the moment achieving that speed. An M4 fires at a speed of more like 600 rounds per minute. Would it make you feel better if we reduced that fraction to rounds per second and said it shoots 10 rounds per second? It's the same thing. And I think you can agreed that an M4 can fire for 1 second straight.
I get what you are saying too. My point is that a car can sustain that speed for the duration when an AR cannot. Saying an AR shoots 900 rounds a minute is disingenuous and a lie. Yes, if you can find a way to belt feed and keep the gun cool could you fire 900 rounds? Maybe. The article I am referring to though was basically a trash article trying to vilify the weapon.
Posted on 10/11/18 at 3:29 pm to Propagandalf
I think his point is that people that don't know any better think that if you give someone an AR they can put 900 rounds down range in a minute, which simply isn't true.
Posted on 10/11/18 at 3:31 pm to rowbear1922
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aying an AR shoots 900 rounds a minute is disingenuous and a lie
It's just a measurement. It's how automatic weapons are rated. It's been this way for a long time and it's going to always be this way.
Posted on 10/11/18 at 3:31 pm to PCRammer
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Baw: I got 11 bucks, 5 does, and 4 yearlings in 4 shots.
Non-Baw: Why?
Baw: meh, meh, Fight tyranny...2nd Amendment something.
Good Lord you have no idea what you are talking about do you? you poor sweet oblivious creature
Posted on 10/11/18 at 3:37 pm to bencoleman
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It's just a measurement. It's how automatic weapons are rated. It's been this way for a long time and it's going to always be this way.
I realize it's used as a measure, but you have people that try to use that measure to vilify the weapon and convince others that you can actually shoot that many rounds in a minute. I've come in contact with people that think with a bump stock you can actually fire 900 rounds in a minute and will argue against me when I tell them how it really works.
Posted on 10/11/18 at 3:41 pm to bencoleman
It's still no W.W.!
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